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ok, so i`ve got debian sarge from 16.4.2005 is there something that i should do to "upgrade" to stable , or just run apt-get upgrade , and that`s all ?
Originally posted by Jonescity Hmmm...... I was thinking of trying the Debian i'll wait a day or two before I download because the mirrors are probably busy! or slow.
you can always get it using BitTorrent no matter how busy the FTP/HTTP sites are...
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Originally posted by Arnaud_B mmm... well nobody seems to agree with that... I have been using unstable for a while now without major problems but recently unstable was not really "unstable" because of the realease... before even if there were more updates I would not define debian unstable as unstable.
However, I am certainly not telling you to use unstable, I am very happy with that but it has to be your personal choice. For sure, if you never used debian before don't even think trying unstable it's ridiculous and you are going to be quite frustrated.
I think the good thing to do would be to install testing and stick with it for some months to learn how debian work. Then later if you feel like upgrading to unstable go for it because at that time if something wrong happens you'll be 1) able to solve it or 2) able to explain what went wrong to someone who can help you.
Also, sorry to say that but if you don't know debian I would actually advise you to stay away from unstable & testing for now because the realease was just today and it is probably going to be a mess ;-)
In brief: wait a couple of months, install testing, learn, and upgrade to unstable if you feel like...
Sorry not to be more helpful...
Good Luck!
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Thanks, I will try the testing branch then! I have used ubuntu and kubuntu for a little while and got the hang tp apt-get and changing the sources.list file, dpkg,etc - but I know I have to learn a lot more before I try anything else. Other than that I guess i'll wait Thanks.
Hmmm I was using Sarge Testing ... now that Stable come out I was thinking what to do to get it updated, I have done aptitude dist-upgrade then to make sure I done aptitude upgrade okay everything seens to be updated... but how can I be sure that Im really with the Stable version now?
Originally posted by craigevil
dist-upgrade to what? If your system was already updated running Sarge you probably won't see alot of updates, since stable only receives security updates.
I run apt-get dist-upgrade about every other day but since last week or so, apt wants to download some 140MB including kernel headers, image and source, lots of libraries and the x-window system. I didn't upgrade because I thought maybe this is a mistake since sarge should only be receiving security updates? my sources.list file looks like this:
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I was actually running apt-get upgrade or something similar when the news was posted. Oh my luck. I had to redo it with aptitude dist-upgrade. I was running it from a chroot environment, and when i exited that new pretty kde, my machine froze. Probably the way i was running it.
Originally posted by ghodkiller ok, so i`ve got debian sarge from 16.4.2005 is there something that i should do to "upgrade" to stable , or just run apt-get upgrade , and that`s all ?
Make sure you run 'apt-get update' before upgrading.............
And ppl - as for running 'apt-get dist-upgrade', AFAIK you should run 'apt-get upgrade' _first_, then do the 'dist-upgrade', for the proper way to upgrade..........Sometimes when I do an 'upgrade', some things get held back, then I run a 'dist-upgrade' to catch those that were held back..........
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Originally posted by maginotjr Hmmm I was using Sarge Testing ... now that Stable come out I was thinking what to do to get it updated, I have done aptitude dist-upgrade then to make sure I done aptitude upgrade okay everything seens to be updated... but how can I be sure that Im really with the Stable version now?...
To be sure you get the desired default release you want, since you have also have testing and unstable in /etc/apt/source.list, you can create a file, /etc/apt/apt.conf, and place this line in it:
APT::Default-Release "stable";
I suppose you can use "sarge" in place of "stable' if you use the word sarge in /etc/apt/sources.list instead of stable.......... :-D
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Despite all the nay-sayers, Debian still rocks. I can only use RPM-based "desktop" distros for a while before I want to rip my hair out. A good Debian install (+ a few days configuring) lasts forever. Congratulations Debian team.
zvonSully I have merged your thread into win32sux's thread because he posted first and you both started identical threads - albeit with different links.
Sarge release also means that the amd64 port should become official soon, at least according to this...
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So, when will it be released?
The first planned official Debian release of 64bit userland for AMD64 will be Etch (Sarge+1).
The unofficial sarge based on the debian-amd64 port will be ready shortly after the official sarge release, and will have security updates provided by the amd64 porting team.
Which distributions are available: stable, testing, unstable?
Since the architecture is younger than the latest Debian GNU/Linux release, Woody, there is currently no stable release. This will change as soon as Sarge becomes stable, though. Currently, there are 3 distributions in 2 flavours available:
* debian-pure64 Sid - plain unstable distribution as if amd64 was already a supported architecture and the packages where in the official archive.
* debian-pure64 Sarge - plain testing distribution as if amd64 was already a supported architecture and the packages where in the official archive. Will become the unofficial stable Debian GNU/Linux ditribuition for amd64 as soon as sarge is released.
* debian-pure64-3.4 Sid - the unstable distribution compiled with an experimental snapshot of gcc-4.0. This flavour started as gcc-3.4 compiled unstable, thus the name, and has evolved into an experimental distribution based on pre-release snapshots of the next gcc version.
Yesterday I wanted to upgrade my Sarge system:
- I first changes testing in sarge in the file /etc/apt/sources.list
- Then did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade and at last apt-get distr-upgrade.
I got an error message for lilo during the proces:
Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
Name change: '/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' -> '/dev/sda'
Fatal: VolumeID read error: sector 0 of /dev/sdb not readable
In the distr-upgrade process I was told to reboot as soon as possible. But the only thing I get not is:
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thegeekster says - "I suppose you can use "sarge" in place of "stable' if you use the word sarge in /etc/apt/sources.list instead of stable.......... :-D"
No you cant I tried it..
Pcghost says - "I can only use RPM-based "desktop" distros for a while"
I agree, totally, rpm based systems sucks
I pointed my sources.list to "sarge". I have not been using debian that long, what happens next? I have understood that, well I think I have understood that testing is = unstable these days, and they will start improving testing from that point, right? How long should I wait before starting to use "etch" without crashing my systme totally.. I guess it is months before the new testing release is giving us some reliability or am I wrong?
Also someone talked about that the non-us source will not be used any more, I guess it will be used in another way then..?
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I have used ubuntu and kubuntu for a little while and got the hang tp apt-get and changing the sources.list file, dpkg,etc - but I know I have to learn a lot more before I try anything else.
Other than that I guess i'll wait Thanks.
