Guess what you'll probably end up using to upgrade packages in RH? Yep, APT.

Enjoy.

Why would I want to use apt in Fedora when there's the brilliant yum? Just one command (yum update) allows me to update any/all of my packages and guess what - unlike Debian it actually updates to the latest versions. Oh, and it has a GUI if you really want to use it that way. Perhaps the Debian developers could learn something from this?

What a useless little troll just because you cannot take the time to learn a packaging system that works fine now Debian is no good eh? And I see in your previous post that it is going to be a server just what the hell did X have to do with a server anyway. Also once again if you had read the fine manual you would have know about the default runlevels what an idiot you are. And I said I was not going to bother oh well.

Just my 2 cents and worth every penny.

Who the hell do you think you are calling a troll and an idiot? As I pointed out quite explicitly in my previous posts, I *did* read the manual that came with the installation disks and I checked some of the online docs as well (although they weren't as useful because they tended to be a bit more general in nature). If Debian stuck to the standard default runlevels (which every other distro I have used does) it would make things a hell of a lot easier - if they want to be quirky then people are more likely to run into problems.

As for wanting X, some of us like to work with a GUI on our machines. I wasn't aware that I required your permission to use X on a server box (and don't moan about wasting resources, because KDE would only be hogging memory whilst I was editing files and the like - the server wouldn't be running a GUI the rest of the time).

It's no wonder people have problems getting to grips with Linux if at the first sign of trouble they are branded as a troll and an idiot. I don't half despise people who think that because someone criticises their pet distribution they must be a retarded newbie who can't figure out how to install things properly.

I used Redhat for a while and the RPM's were really a pain with all the dependency issues. I have to say though that Debian really is far more advanced, but at the same time what took me 2 weeks to configure, install from RPM's and source, only took me a few days with Debian, and these are some real fussy applications to get up and running. Applications like giFT and mplayer, php, MYSQL. I'm sticking to Debian just because apt-get makes life a whole lot easier. I've also realized it runs a lot faster than Fedora, which I did find to be ok, and great with hardware, but it also has a lot of clutter and takes forever to boot up. Hope you give Debian another shot one day, what other users say here is true though, don't rely totally on auto installs, get a grasp of what it's doing and you can get it to work for you when you do.