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Old 02-14-2008, 03:25 PM   #1
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Browser support for java, shockwave and flash with AMD64 !


Main question:
How could I get support for java, shockwave and flash i my browser at Debian AMD64 ?
(today I have installed the default Debian browser Epiphany and Iceweasel)

Q1) Could I remove the 64 bits browser and install a 32 bits browser ? How ?

Q2) Could I install some type of 32 to 64 bits wrapper to my 64 bits browser and install Linux 32 bits plugins ?

Q3) Could I install some type of 32=>64 bit or 32=>32 bit wrapper for Microsoft's plugins ?
 
Old 02-14-2008, 05:20 PM   #2
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For Flash, install "flashplugin-nonfree"

For Java, there is no 64-bit plugin from Sun. If you install the browser, Konqueror, it works without a plugin as long as you have a Java environment installed.

Installing 32-bit apps on 64-bit Debian is a headache. It requires setting up a chroot. I'll let you investigate that process on your own.
 
Old 02-15-2008, 08:20 AM   #3
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Chroot is not a dynamic and flexible solution....
I have heard there are a lot of problems with the Debian "flashplugin-nonfree", but even if the flash-plugins works perfect I still have not any solution for shockwave.

Maybe I should reinstall from 64 bit to 32-bits Linux on my AMD64 dual core. (I assume that one of the CPU-core is unused...)

I only realize that the 64 bits operating system
(both Vista and Linux) are not ready to be used for the most common application or drivers (e.g. digitalcamera, wireless cards, TV card)


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For Flash, install "flashplugin-nonfree"

For Java, there is no 64-bit plugin from Sun. If you install the browser, Konqueror, it works without a plugin as long as you have a Java environment installed.

Installing 32-bit apps on 64-bit Debian is a headache. It requires setting up a chroot. I'll let you investigate that process on your own.
 
Old 02-15-2008, 02:10 PM   #4
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I assume that one of the CPU-core is unused...)
This is not true. When you will install i386 version of Debian, a SMP enabled kernel will be installed in your system. It utilizes both core of the CPU.
 
Old 02-15-2008, 02:51 PM   #5
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This is not true. When you will install i386 version of Debian, a SMP enabled kernel will be installed in your system. It utilizes both core of the CPU.
You get an SMP kernel if you make sure to get a -686 kernel or better. Boot with the "expert" paramater on the boot line and you can check your kernel options. Sometimes the installer gets confused (?) and selects a -486 kernel. That's bad since the -486 is the only Debian kernel which is not SMP enabled.
 
Old 02-15-2008, 03:55 PM   #6
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@all:for flash 64-bit google for "nspluginwrapper"
as far as java is considered,I believe blackdown java got 64-bit support :-| again GIYF

and below article may be helpful to ya all

Flash and Java on 64bit Ubuntu and Kubuntu
http://www.mutaku.com/geeklog/articl...80116181440588
 
Old 02-18-2008, 10:44 AM   #7
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That's great and thank you !

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This is not true. When you will install i386 version of Debian, a SMP enabled kernel will be installed in your system. It utilizes both core of the CPU.
 
Old 02-18-2008, 10:46 AM   #8
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Thanks, that's what I'm looking for...adobe's plugins sucks....


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@all:for flash 64-bit google for "nspluginwrapper"
as far as java is considered,I believe blackdown java got 64-bit support :-| again GIYF

and below article may be helpful to ya all

Flash and Java on 64bit Ubuntu and Kubuntu
http://www.mutaku.com/geeklog/articl...80116181440588
 
Old 02-18-2008, 02:35 PM   #9
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Of course, I've the Linux 2.6.18.6 with 486 kernel installed !
No, support of SMP (dual core) :-(
I use the Linux i386 CD distribution.

How could I change the Linux-installer to use 686 or K7 kernel, instead of 486 ?
Which kernel should I use 686 SMP or K7 SMP ?

I have a processor AMD ATHLON X2 BE 2300 (dual core) and
want to use 32 bits Linux and use both "CPU-cores".


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You get an SMP kernel if you make sure to get a -686 kernel or better. Boot with the "expert" paramater on the boot line and you can check your kernel options. Sometimes the installer gets confused (?) and selects a -486 kernel. That's bad since the -486 is the only Debian kernel which is not SMP enabled.
 
Old 02-18-2008, 11:25 PM   #10
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hey!
most kernel's are SMP enabled:
just open a terminal and see the o/p of below command:
Code:
 cat /proc/cpuinfo
OR
better install hardwareinfo and see details also u may like to install "irqbalance"
 
Old 02-19-2008, 02:56 AM   #11
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hey!
most kernel's are SMP enabled:
just open a terminal and see the o/p of below command:
Code:
 cat /proc/cpuinfo
OR
better install hardwareinfo and see details also u may like to install "irqbalance"
486 kernel in debian is not SMP enabled. You have to install 686 or k7 kernel to get both core working.

@ uffe2

Since you have amd athlon processor, either you install amd64 kernel(64 bit) or k7(32 bit) kernel. Open synaptic package manager and look for linux-image-xxxxx-k7 or linux-image-xxxxx-amd64 package.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 11:49 AM   #12
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Installing 32-bit apps on 64-bit Debian is a headache. It requires setting up a chroot. I'll let you investigate that process on your own.
I admit, I didn't get Java running on AMD64 with Opera and/or Firefox yet. But that is the only thing. I recently installed ia32-libs and I am running succesfully 32-bits Skype.

jlinkels
 
Old 02-20-2008, 04:00 AM   #13
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I have installed the K7 SMP kernel now, instead of the 486 kernel !
It works now and I could use both core's on my
AMD Athlon X2 BE2300 (64 bits) with a 32 bits Linux.
But, I was forced to create a new kernel
for the wireless driver (ndiswrapper & MS driver for WiFi MA111 USB-stick)

Thanks everyone ......

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486 kernel in debian is not SMP enabled. You have to install 686 or k7 kernel to get both core working.

@ uffe2

Since you have amd athlon processor, either you install amd64 kernel(64 bit) or k7(32 bit) kernel. Open synaptic package manager and look for linux-image-xxxxx-k7 or linux-image-xxxxx-amd64 package.
 
  


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