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Old 06-30-2003, 05:39 PM   #1
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apt-get, tarballs and installation

I have just installed Debian (used Linux for a bit but a Debian newbie) and I have a couple of small problems with apt-get and dselect.

// background so far
I installed a minimal woody (nothing from tasksel, nothing from dselect).
I then moved my old /etc/apt/sources.list to a backup file
apt-cdrom add (2 sarge disks)
dselect update; dselect install

Having had numerous problems with .deb based X install, I have installed it from tgz's from (4.3.0)
Problem is when I try to use apt-get with any X-based apps it wants to install an older X-windows packages (sarge's 4.2.1) which makes a nice "mess" of my working X - how can I stop this?

Or generally, how do I synchronise apt-get with installed apps from tarballs so it won't damage installed apps and libraries?

Secondly, dselect keeps selecting some (quite a few) packages that I do not want to install when I start it up .... debian installer packages and more include something called 'busybox' which has the description "...Installing this on your Debian system is a very, very bad idea."
It took many re-installs before I latched on to that one.
"D" doesn't de-select these and the Debian reference manual suggest manually de-selecting them with "_" - just too much hunting them down every time I run dselect at the moment?

Any help gratefully received. Tnx.
Old 07-01-2003, 07:06 AM   #2
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It is generally a bad idea to install packages from tarballs which are available as .debs. There is equivs to work around dependency problems, but use at your own risk. If you need a new X version, try looking for one at

About dselect selecting too many packages; this has been fixed recently in the unstable branch and will be available in the next release. In the meantime you might try to look at alternatives to dselect, e.g. aptitude or apt-get, the backend.
Old 07-01-2003, 05:01 PM   #3
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Thanks mucho for pointing me towards equivs - I think it will be useful in the future.

X problems have been fixed and am now happy with the 4.2 deb and I can live without dselect at the moment - apt-get is fine so long as I am not overwriting my other software.
Old 07-03-2003, 09:30 AM   #4
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Somthing simailar, want about removing a tar file in Debian.

I am in a senario that I ahve a buggered kismet - due to conflict with an old Debian version and compiled version from a tar file.

How can I remove kismet that was compiled from a tar file?

Old 07-03-2003, 03:53 PM   #5
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No way.
Unless you have the old kismet sources around and they provide a make uninstall. Or know where the files went.
Next time install into /usr/local (probably using stow) or use checkinstall. I'm sure there are even more ways out there, you could search for those.
Old 07-04-2003, 05:04 PM   #6
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if you want to find where the files went, or at least the majority of them, then just
cd /
find | egrep kismet


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