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Old 04-21-2005, 01:49 PM   #1
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apt-get install gnome


I have morphix installed on my hdd. I tryed to install Gnome 2.8 using synaptic. But I cant start GNOME. Appears a wallpaer "Debian" and freezes. No error messages. Some applications do work when I start them from terminal from XFCE, another don't. No problems with gnome-terminal, gxine, epiphany, gnome-volume-control, gnome-games... I can't start nautilus, gthumb, totem. nautilus doesn't start at all, but gthumb starts and freezes.
Any ideas
 
Old 04-21-2005, 03:04 PM   #2
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reinstall the OS
 
Old 04-21-2005, 03:35 PM   #3
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After installing Morphix the first thing you do should be updating the package database (apt-get update) and then upgrading all the installed packages (apt-get dist-upgrade).

After that, install the apt-listbugs utility (apt-get install apt-listbugs) that will warn you before installing any packages with known bugs. After this you're ready to install Gnome and you should encounter considerably less problems, especially if you don't install any packages that apt-listbugs warns about. (But the packages where the bug reports have been marked as "closed" should be safe to install.)
 
Old 04-21-2005, 08:19 PM   #4
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I had this problem with the last release of MEPIS. I was told the apt-get repository was made for debian and not one of the debian derivatives. So upgrading the distro will give you stuff designed for debian. Thus the system will be unstable since there are packages for both debian and morphix on it.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 01:02 AM   #5
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I realized that my applications work, but they start 10-15 minutes after I typed the command to run them. And now message appears
(nautilus:6673): Bonobo-WARNING **: Never got frame, control died - abnormal exit condition
art_render_invoke: no image source given
and this art_render_invoke: no image source given appears and for other programs. Nothig wrong with the memory or CPU - 13 % usage.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 02:01 AM   #6
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away I used to use Morphix as an easy Debian installer. But then the Morphix developer seemed to concentrate on making Morphix the basis for other live-CD's and Morphix just kind of stopped making its own releases, and then I gave up and stopped tracking the progress of this project.

While I was recollecting that distant past I started to wonder if you've got the 2.4 or the 2.6 kernel. Because Morphix releases so seldom, I suspect that you may have the 2.4 kernel, unless you've already upgraded it. I don't use Gnome myself but I've got the impression that the latest versions of Gnome utilize heavily the new technology that has been made available with the 2.6 kernel. So if you're still using the 2.4 kernel, I suggest that you upgrade the kernel to 2.6. If your computer's processor belongs to the i386 family, then "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686" should do the trick. Who knows, maybe the kernel upgrade will fix some of your problems.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 04:51 AM   #7
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kernel 2.6.9
Gnome started too, but after 30 minutes. I removed all the packages and did apt-get install apt-listbugs, after I reinstalled GNOME and I was told that gnome-session is marked as bugy package. So I wonder should I remove just gnome-session, download source package from gnome.org and compile it myself?
 
Old 04-22-2005, 05:27 AM   #8
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Different users have different strategies in managing the problems that using Unstable creates. Usually these things get fixed if you can wait for a bit. Personally I used Unstable for quite some time but now I prefer to use Testing because all serious problems seem to get fixed before the packages enter Testing. (Hmm... I now notice that Testing has the same version of gnome-session as Unstable, so that's probably not a viable alternative.)

Maybe you should do a Google search for the error essage "art_render_invoke: no image source given" to see if someone has found an easy fix to that particular problem. If you cannot find any easy fix and are too impatient to wait for the Debian developers to implement a clean fix that doesn't break anything else, then I guess you could try compiling the binary yourself. It might work or maybe it won't. If you compile a .deb binary, you can at least uninstall it if it doesn't help.

Apparently Gnome is a difficult DE to maintain. The Slackware developer Patrick Volkerding has given up on it.

If you decide to wait for a proper fix from the Debian developers, then you can perhaps install XFCE4 and run your Gnome apps from there.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 08:26 AM   #9
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sorry, I quit all atempts to fix it. reinstalled my favorite Slack 9.1
My morphix had it XFCE, but I just wanted to have gthumb or somethig simillar. I installed morphix because it's kernel was recognizing my mobilephone. Now I'll try to make kernel to do the same for me.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 11:27 AM   #10
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A bit funny thing that gthumb bug, because I've been running gthumb without any problems on Debian Testing/Sarge and Window Maker. (I didn't install gnome, just gthumb.) Which makes me wonder if you should have tried Debian proper in the first place instead of Morphix? The new Sarge installer is much easier to use than the old Woody installer.

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Anyway, I hope you get the kernel configured to support your mobilephone.
 
Old 04-22-2005, 11:40 AM   #11
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everithing is fine with my mobilephone
now I'm waiting for my ubuntu disks
I like these debian apt-get, synaptic, etc
I know that morphix is a live cd, but I hoped that I'll make it to work
Thaks to all for your help
 
Old 04-22-2005, 12:46 PM   #12
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Ubuntu is a good choice if you want to use Gnome. Ubuntu uses the new Debian Sarge installer that I mentioned in my earlier post. You can also use apt-listbugs (and other Debian utilities) with Ubuntu.
 
Old 05-28-2005, 04:40 PM   #13
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I found out what's the reason for this. Morphix is not rising the loopback interface when it loads. When I ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 everything works fine.
Better later than never
 
  


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