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Old 03-02-2006, 10:38 AM   #1
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Non-functioning man pages and apt-get


I'm trying to set up my brand-new DSL 2.0 system, and so far I'm really liking it! I've done the hard drive install, and upgraded to GNU Utils and Apt-get like the intro document described.

I've run into some snags, though -
Firstly, I don't seem to be able to use the man pages - they keep opening in the links browser, and don't ever actually show any data. I think I get the usual header record on the top of the page, but then it just says something about how "If this page is not displayed, click here" (nothing happens when I hit enter there). I'm not positive what's wrong, but it's definitely not a man page in the expected sense of the word. Is there anything I can do about this?

Secondly, I'm unsure how to configure apt-get to look in the right places for anything. Preparatory to getting all of my personal config files set up, I tried to install emacs. I tried 'apt-get install emacs' and got told there was no such package. Tried 'apt-get install xemacs' and got told no such package, but it sounds kind of like xemacs21 - is that what I want? Tried 'apt-get install xemacs21' and got told that there were all kinds of dependancy problems ("This package cannot be installed because of either 'this requires X' or 'this requires Y', or 'this requires Z' - it didn't seem to really know what its problem was), and that nothing would be done. Isn't that the kind of thing that apt is supposed to be able to resolve on its own? This is my first real experience with a Debian-esque system, and I'm a little hazy on the details :-[ Are there repositories that I'm supposed to add to a config file?

Lastly, I found a great DSL FAQ which someone posted here which answered a lot of my little nagging questions, if anyone else if reading this and has the same problems

Thanks!
 
Old 03-02-2006, 12:29 PM   #2
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I believe that Damn Small is not exactly like Debian, so you may have issues with apt-get. I think there's another thing in DSL for adding programs (not that I remember what it is). However, post your /etc/apt/sources.list so we can see what it says.

In general for finding programs try apt-cache search packagename. So for emacs, apt-cache search emacs. Then you can pick which one looks like what you want.
 
Old 03-02-2006, 12:36 PM   #3
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Okay, nevermind, I'm full of it. Claims it should work just like Debian. myDSL allows extending DSL without using apt (used mostly for live CD's).
 
Old 03-02-2006, 02:23 PM   #4
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Hmm, cool. I've not tried myDSL, mainly because it did seem to be more geared toward the LiveCD, and I think I'd like to try a distro with decent package management for once When I get home in a couple of hours I'll post the sources file you mentioned, thanks!
 
Old 03-03-2006, 08:25 AM   #5
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i dont think the man pages are installed by default...

did you apt them or are they part of gnu utils??
 
Old 03-03-2006, 09:17 AM   #6
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Apt doesn't work yet, and I think they were there before I installed gnu-utils..I remember trying to look things up while I was still running off of the LiveCD. While I had an internet connection, they'd (sort of) open in links, but now that I don't have connectivity anymore I just get a "Not connected" error message.

One theory is that they really _aren't_ installed, to save space, and they're dynamically downloaded each time you view them. If that's the case....how do I install them all locally, and tell man to not use links as a viewer?
 
Old 03-12-2006, 08:04 PM   #7
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Did you find an anwer to this man page thing? I was about to start a thread and spotted this one.
Trying to get any man page in bash brings up a ncurses box 'Error host not found'.
I know this thing is only 50 MB but would they really have chosen to leave this out? Strange place to save space!
Surely I'm misunderstanding something.
DSL installed on P1 32Mbram.
 
Old 03-12-2006, 09:12 PM   #8
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Hi Muddy :] No, your results are correct. It sounds like you're using pre-DSL 2.2, which uses the links browser to retrieve the man pages from DSL's site (or a mirror, I assume). The man page do take up an enormous amounts of space, so to make the distro fit inside of 50megs they were in fact left out, and the current functionality (2.2 and up, from what someone upthread said) is to use a combination of wget and less to retrieve and display them. At least that combo's infinitely better than links...

Unfortunately, this still means that if you're offline, you have no man pages. Even though I understand it now, I'm as irked by it as you are =/

Last edited by rose_bud4201; 03-13-2006 at 09:15 AM.
 
Old 03-13-2006, 07:38 AM   #9
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You're right on the version,I'm running 1.4. It's quick enough to download and install so maybe an update is in order.
Haven't found a nic for this old box so that explains the 'host not found' error.
The main reason for ressurecting this old box was to play with scripts and general experimentation that I didn't want to do on my main machine. Now seriously considering installing Slack without X.

Thanks for clearing this up
 
Old 03-19-2006, 05:35 PM   #10
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There is no true man application or man pages in DSL...it is a perl script that fetches pre-formatted pages from the web, as RoseBud said. There is a man package in the "uci" section of the myDSL repository, which includes man pages for most of the applications in DSL. The man pages were collected for the applications available in DSL 1.2
 
  


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