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--jeremy

hey whats up

Guy's when are we going to see user friendly desktop for linux i am a newbie have not no idea how to install software on linux i hated when i can't get things to work with such a good OS recently i had some serious dramras install java with Mozilla now guys if this was Microsfsoft internet explorer it would have install automatically



come on there has to be a answer to all these problem someone some where knows how to fix linux and make it user friendly why is it that Red hat don't make this move


i mean how stupit is it that you have to create a icon after install a software as i have learn from installing mozilla



help red hat guy's become more user friendly one when we unite can we beat MS OS we have to focus on either Red hat or mandrake inorder to win this game?

Hi there,

Starting as a newbie I can now configure my Linux for myself, including Java support under Mozilla and Flash too.
The reason why it is not as easy as Windows is that the system is built differently, leaving a lot of freedom for distributors and programmers.
This can result in programs having slightly different install settings and universal programs are thus difficult to create. However, every distro has its howto's and so has every piece of software. If you want to make an effort just read it and do what it says, it works 99% of the cases.
If you want ease of windows Mandrake is better than RedHat in my opinion.
make this your homepage: http://www.google.nl/linux
then search for things you need en DO it.
If you have problems, search FAQ's and HOWTO's.
You will learn in a few months how to get things the way you want.
good luck !
Please keep your criticism low if you don't have a good reason. Like instead of stupid you could have typed: not preferred for my needs.
And for MS crap: Mozilla is probably installed once and the mentioned bugged unsecury browser maybe a zillion times.

i agree the best way to learn is do it your self rather then asking all the time for help and i also agree that MS is crap thats why i am using Redhat because i think its betthen than MS way better


my point is many user now come on just think about what i am going to say


how many people do you know have a proper copy of MS OS not that many all of my friends have a copy version of XP and Office XP downloaded from the internet

now these people are walking customer who just want a OS and somewhere to type there work in many of them have no idea of how to use a PC. just think about it for a moment


would not make sense if there was something out there or a program wizard like MS that would install all the bits for you. would you rather not see Linux take off it would save millions of people some serious crash that they can spend on their familys rather then MS pocket { bill gate}


I really belive Red hat or mandake have a good chance to make it in our houses.

Yeah about 3 weeks ago I fixed meup a Linux Box with Blag (RedHat) Linux and was blown away.....

Blown away in that this OS intrigued me and was fun! Yes I loved the freedom thats why they should have a HOME Edition (YES! LETS RIP OFF MS ONCE AGAIN! - TASTE OF THIER OWN MEDICINE!!!) and a Pro Edition....


Then I was blown away by just trying to get Java VM installed for limewire... I'm very good with computers and Windows and am very familiar with Networking, Programming, Configuring things and such I'm generally a smart guy but I found myself going bald at the end of about 2 weeks.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to use this os, but it just could'nt do what I wanted and if it could just barely. There are not enough Developers and companies supporting the open source community because there is no stability in linux as in no original distro that all companies can realy on. Redhat and Mandrake do have that capability but until linux can just get programs installed easly (I almost saw this in .bin files) and uninstalled easily (also .bin files - close oh so close) and QUIT scattering files all over the file system. have the apps add a few icons..... and you have competition if Linux can just get this done companies will start supporting Linux.

Lindows Is close but .... c'mon you have to have the internet for that OS. Companies need to be able to distrobute thier products on cd and just simply pop it in a linux box and go they need to know thier users will see (yes actually see) and can use thier program everytime. (well almost everythime)

haha My mom, on the other hand, would have walked up to a linux box, sat down, gave me a funny look and told me to fix it in discust.......

HAHAHA that made me laugh HAHAH! okay whew -

I say no to mozilla (uhhh just delete that thing bad engine) and GO Galeon!

(for jeremy)
But for CollegeLinux we ACCEPT yet another challange!

Please keep this thread on topic.

--jeremy

Read this thread too http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=125933

Come on http://KNOPPIX.net

When will people quite making excuses for Linux and just admit the truth.
With Microsoft you have one company controlling quality. with Linux you have uh lets see "well nobody" controlling quality. With an open source program
You have a great deal for programmers but the worse choice possible for the home user.

I think part of the problem is the way the two operating systems is misrepresented. You cannot make a good choice if you do not have good and complete information to base that choice on.

1. If you want a good system that will install and support your hardware with no involvement by you. your choice is Microsoft. You do not have to go with XP. I just recently took win 2000 off my comp and reinstalled win 98 because thats the flavor I like best.

If on the other hand you do not mind building your own drivers or maybe Even making some hardware changes. You are maybe looking for an economical way to get into programming. Get a flavor of Linux.
Remember you do not have to download the latest and greatest. That might not be the best choice for you. Also remember that the company who made that version always thinks it is the best and that everybody should run it. For the large part that is probably true about the people that run that flavor.

I also disagree that you should not ask every question about problems on the websites that are setup for that reason. The best way to learn about something is to ask someone who knows. For the most part I think that most of the people that answer the questions are people who do not mind sharing their knowledge. There are some guidelines you should follow. For one thing search the site to see if someone asked a question about that subject already. Also do a web search. I found that if I searched the web, the answer to my question would come up on someone's website.
But if other means fails. ask at a site like this. The people who mind answering Questions don't answer questions.
Evan on the web there are people that are plain #$%&. But I have found that for every one like that their are thousands that will go out of there way to help you solve your problem.

I do not like linux. But I do want to keep up on the state of the OS. Someday it will be a OS I want and like. so I like to hang out at places like this and I have every flavor of linux I can find burnt onto a CD.

So and this is only my opinion. If you do not like something about the OS please do something about it. I am positive complaining on here will not solve the problem.

But since this is a place to post answers to questions about linux I will try to give the best solution to your problem." After all many people did the same for me"
I think the best solution is to learn programming and program a GUI that does everything you want. And when you do please post here because I am waiting for someone to build a GUI like that .

The second best answer is do what I did. Reinstall Microsoft . That is the only OS I feel does everything In the way a good OS should.

But I know how you feel I posted a few rants on these places too.
Stick with windows it is the best.
Next time you change your OS. May I suggest you right down everything about your hardware and go some forums and run a search and see if other people had problems with that hard ware or program or whatever.
Most of the linux forums I believe have a section that deals with installation problems.

Where can you download a free copy of XP or office XP. I do not know anybody who has not had to shell out bucks for that.

Ok guy’s look the fact is most and I mean MOST people earn in UK below 150 pounds a week Microsoft OS cost 200 pounds and the update would cost 98 pound


Ok you tell me a man who is married can he really afford this OS the answer is NO


I totally agree with Aliencasino about more co-operation between distro I mean Linux could really take off if and I mean IF the programmers could solve this installation problems Linux really needs a Wizard that can install software automatically and create a icon this is must be a MUST DO once this is sorted then Linux will take off I hope someone from RED Hat is listing to me I am really fed up



Linux can beat MS and but it has to successfully complete the above task


Can we create a partition of emails so we can send red hat a list of emails of user who want a wizard to install the software for them? Guy’s its about knowing your customer come on

By 2005 we want Red hat to achieve the above and have Bluetooth support also all the major software for

dvdljns: I had a better rebuttal typed out, but my Windows machine crashed! :-P Basically, with Windows, you're stuck with whatever Microsoft does. With Linux, if you don't like RedHat, you can switch to another distro. Linux isn't ready for everyone (yet), but for all its headaches, it's STILL better than Windows.

Originally posted by Big Al With Linux, if you don't like RedHat, you can switch to another distro.

<hint>Yeah, like CollegeLinux, maybe.</hint>

You know I hear a lot about windows crashing but the truth is 99.9 percent of the time my windows crashes I can trace it back to something. My daughter downloaded or something I did. {you know that latest and greatest tweak}I bet I know more people out there thats had no problem with windows in years. IF you like to mess with your OS. IF you are the type of person that constantly wants to make your own adjustments to your os. Then stick with linux. WINDOWS WILL NOT TOLERATE THAT.
But on the other hand I have noticed a couple things. I have never had a program crash my computer that microsoft wrote or evan one they put there seal on. Almost every time I have had problams with programs on windows it was because of third party shareware. " probably someone writing programs on a linux box" And a lot of the time I can go to www.microsoft.com and find the answer.
It's true microsoft is expensive. It's also true you get what you pay for.
Don't blame microsoft for software they didnot right and don't blame microsoft for adjustments you made.
My honest advice for people that don't like the features microsft builds into windows download linux and write your own.
Come on man it's free. redhat or any of the others do not have a costomer base. They will set you up with a boxed set but what they ask in return is
there money back.
I would be willing to bet that at least 90% of the people with linux did not evan consider buying the paid suport option.
I would like to suggest that all of the people with downloaded copys of linux send something evan if it is only $1 and ask them to put it in a fund to
add only features that are demanded by linux users.
While your at it send torvold something."hope I got that name right" Out of all the people out there that does not like windows. He's the one that aproached the the complaint in the right way. You Know. I see all these people out there writing programs for linux and some of them are great .
The whole point of linux "if I understand it right" is that YOU are allowed to write programs that make linux do what you want it to do.
The fact that I do not want to do that is the reason I run windows.
But windows is stable. The only time a had as many problams with an OS
as I had with linux is when I checked out a copy of win 97.

dvdljns,

I asked you to stay on topic. What does that post have to do with CollegeLinux?

--jeremy

Windows is far from stable, I have experienced millions of crashes and seen a lot of blue screens, also in XP which are WHQL drivers from original CD's causing the crashes. It is pure CRAP! My system behaves strangly for reasons unknown (not traceable). FYI i git a original licensed XP Home supllied with my laptop.
And you are claming MS progs do not crash? Well they do, starting with the OS, which makes the rest unstable, costs a lot of money you did not choose to pay and giving no warranty whatsoever.
So the work around there own (known) crashes makes other programs less stable and makes sure other apps from your "third parties" crash as well.
With no control on the source you are unable to fix it, depending on their buggy patches which cause more depression.
Feel free, think, be smart be in control USE LINUX!
Proud to announce that a helpdesk company I start at will support Linux from 2004, giving the market what it wants.
Don't be 1 company's slave who rips your money, choose quality and we will have competition, no freaking-nazi monopoly. More Linux drivers will be supplied by hardware and software will be developped for both win and Linux.
Long live freedom and choice
up yours all pathetic lazy mf-peep who do not know what they are talking about:
yes technique
too bad these discussions are here, pure waste of time
will not reply anymore
laterz
btw, think for yourself