What happen to the Bodhi's own Forum?

Originally Posted by the_waiter Is linuxfarm the same person as Hemlocktree? Is it you Norman?

i was wondering the same

Missed you people a lot. forgot what the other name i had...plus changed emails so no way to access it either.

Originally Posted by ondoho And you are. If the forum is available on the WWW inside the EU, then it has do adhere to the GDPR. You probably can't, but I can see large american news sites that simply won't open anymore, only showing a short text apologising that it's not available in the EU. Because they do not want to adhere to it. BTW, complying to the GDPR isn't that hard, definitely not for a classic forum software driven forum, and it is extremely unlikely that anybody would get fined for unintentionally overstepping, esp. on such a small scale. I run a blog and I'm not in the slightest worried, and I changed nothing to make it GDPR conform. It seems some (american?) media like to paint it as a piece of bureaucratic injustice designed to harrass small web site owners and weedle money out of them. It is not. IMO, if a site isn't designed to collect personal data, then it's fine. Which obviously many sites are designed to do, and some of the larger ones have been fined and have to pay. The Internet is global, and (in my opinion) needs global regulation. It won't do to try to close your eyes from that. We've had a free pass for 3 decades, now it's slowly becoming part of the fabric of society, with all the advantages and disadvantages that entails. With all that said: Bodhi is a small project with few active members, and I can understand that Jeff Hoogland wants to concentrate on developing the distro, not the forums.

I see. But if even a free commercial US site is merely allowing free access to all users everywhere to simple read their articles, then why would they need to comply with the EU?

It's a bit like when my favourite cafe closed when the ancient owner retired and sold up. It was a proper little meeting house club. We all drifted to another nearby cafe but it was never quite the same and full of different people,different atmosphere etc. But that's life - things move on and you adapt!

I kind of feel similar to linuxfarm though(I think!) in that I am on slight tenterhooks that Bodhi is dependant on two brilliant people keeping it going and has less of a formal presence. It is my favourite distro of any - mainly because it is the fastest. And just works and so nice to use and look at. For example the seemingly current favourite lighter weight distro MX I find extremely tedious and slow and fiddly. I just keep coming back to Bodhi. I can't help out because I know xxxx all about coding and linux really - enough to use the terminal a bit for basics and set up a desktop how I like. I think Bodhi 5 is brilliant and it doesn't get enough publicity.

Anyway Bodhi is well maintained and supported by a small but dedicated team :-)

Re the gdpr business and forums, it is quite serious (see below). Jeff did the only thing he could pulling the forum. Keeping it in would have meant virtually pulling it and resetting it up again with users signing up to certain things and a lot of extra work. I guess it would be possible to set up a new forum from scratch now but it would be a lot of work for someone to maintain and need moderators etc.

https://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/t...-forum.387728/

Originally Posted by serendipity7000 Re the gdpr business and forums, it is quite serious (see below). Jeff did the only thing he could pulling the forum. Keeping it in would have meant virtually pulling it and resetting it up again with users signing up to certain things and a lot of extra work. I guess it would be possible to set up a new forum from scratch now but it would be a lot of work for someone to maintain and need moderators etc. https://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/t...-forum.387728/

It says in the 1st post:

All members that sign up to our forum have always had to agree to marketing emails from our sponsor

Does not look like a good example to me to compare to a non-commercial forum.
And, FWIW, I think it's only right that this sort of data brokering is being regulated, if not stopped.

Good point. I thought the gdpr just applied to all forums, commercial or otherwise.

Hmmm.

Being a small distro team member myself. Might I suggest you guys start a facebook group, bohdi users. Only takes a couple members to set up.

Hell. I even answer questions and make comments and get to know new members in our group. Like the dude in India with his indie royal enfeild motorcyle repair shop or the relocated American scooter tramp married to Bulgarian girl and residing there.

Up to you though.

As much as I played with enlightment desktop in Puppy Linux < Macpup>, and AntiX. I never tried bohdi yet. I figure it should be pretty easy being Ubuntu based with tons of repo choices < because of Ubuntu >. Highly tweak-able probably.

Edit: If against facebook for what ever reason. I know some scooter tramps like that.
They went with instagram instead. Site is called Quad Cam Bastards.

You should try Bodhi :-) Main reasons I like it over most other distros: It’s fast. You get things done quickly- no hanging around. It works - reliable. It looks nice - you can always change the look if it’s not to your taste. No “bloatware”. You just add what you want. Great to use basically. I can’t be doing with glitchy distros.

Oh and it’s fast :-) Boots up a and shura down fast and reliably even on old hardware.

As a bit of an update on this topic - the info below shows that even Facebook group admins are subject to gdpr. Out of personal interest I have been trying to find out more about how small non profit-making forums can actually easily comply with gdpr but so far it seems to be a bit of a minefield. However it might change after the Uk leaves the EU - if the forum is a uk forum! So perhaps this is a time issue.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.a...iance.html/amp

Originally Posted by rokytnji I never tried bohdi yet. I figure it should be pretty easy being Ubuntu based with tons of repo choices < because of Ubuntu >. Highly tweak-able probably.

It is. Gotta love the Ubuntu ecosystem.

Keep an eye on the upcoming Bodhi 5.1 release. Lots of improvements, and the different iso's will be smartly targeted to cover (almost) the entire hardware range, from ancient to brand-new.

Originally Posted by serendipity7000 As a bit of an update on this topic - the info below shows that even Facebook group admins are subject to gdpr. Out of personal interest I have been trying to find out more about how small non profit-making forums can actually easily comply with gdpr but so far it seems to be a bit of a minefield. However it might change after the Uk leaves the EU - if the forum is a uk forum! So perhaps this is a time issue. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.a...iance.html/amp

This statement pains me on many levels.

First of all, the link you provided is a google AMP (more centralised data mining) link, this is the actual link to the article in question.

You say "even Facebook group admins are subject to gdpr" - of course! Everyone(*) is subject to the GDPR!
I only read the first paragraph of that article, but already I can say that by comparison your summary is almost criminally simplified. Here is what is really written:

The Court of Justice of the European Union recently ruled that anybody who runs a fan page, group or other such page on Facebook can be held partly responsible for any failures in GDPR compliance concerning users on the page, even if the offense does not originate from the page itself. Likewise, if a page administrator fails to comply with the GDPR, Facebook can be held partly responsible as the provider of the platform that made the infringing data collection and use possible. This hinges on Facebook's Insights tool, which allows page administrators to view demographic data on page visitors such as their location and interests.

So, for people who need very simple statements: Don't use Facebook's Insights tool.

(*) Yes, the GDPR applies to everyone providing online content to clients in the EU (and to anyone providing online content in the EU, I assume).

The rest of your post is pure opinion; I can only hold against it what I said earlier, that it's not a minefield and there's no danger of prosecution if a few simple rules are adhered to. We got used to the internet being somewhat outside of rules and regulations, all this might come as a shock to some, but if at the same time it puts a stop (or at least a limit) to the unscrupulousness of the really big datamining corps (as it does), I welcome a little extra (paper)work, or double checking that my web facing application does not collect - or even pass on - client data I don't need anyhow.

BTW, I'm by no means uncritical to all the internet-related legislature that came out of the EU's arse over the past years. But I do welcome the effort per se. See how much Google and Facebook alone had to deal with it already, how personal data protection and the woeful lack thereof has become a household topic etc.

Btw, when you wrote this (I'm assuming 1st or 2nd of March) the UK had already left the EU for over a month.
Would be interesting to hear what sort of online data protection regulation they have in the UK - from someone who actually has a clue about it.

That was a bit harsh! Know I know nothing about it so was trying to find out how feasible it is.