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Old 06-29-2018, 04:05 PM   #1
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Someone please help. How do I run unetbootin in bodhi now that it is loaded?


I was excited about a wealth of support and community. I am only seeing a bunch of words as of yet. I feel like I have been talking to politicians.

Everything is so easy, just do this and this. Ok, I did everything exactly, but it simply does nothing. No error message, nothing. Am I trapped in the bodhi pit?

Just click to download for linux. Ok. Now what?
Go to properties and click the executable box. Cool. There is no executable box.
Just run the file. Ok. Open with what program? Uh, I have no idea. Package installer? Nope. Anything else. Nope.

It is easy to see why people pay so much for programs that will hog up space and harvest personal information. They can understand and get help when they don't.

Please help. This computer is starting to feel about as useless as the stupid iPad that my daughter gave me.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 04:27 PM   #2
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Welcome to LinuxQuestions!

Please understand, we are all volunteers, doing this in our spare time, as a hobby. It's been less than a day since you posted your Unetbootin question, and we are all scattered around the globe in different time zones. Be patient.

Reading your other thread, it looks like your goal is to copy the "Fatdog64" distribution onto a USB thumb drive. Is my understanding of your question correct/accurate?

If so, I think these are the correct instructions to create a bootable Fatdog64 USB stick: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web...lashdrive.html

Please follow the directions carefully, step-by-step, and pay particular attention to this statement: "Please read all of the following steps carefully before actually doing anythig:" (sic)

If you get stuck, please stop what you are doing and post back here for help. Post specific details of what you have tried so far, the specific step where you get stuck, and any errors/output that the computer gives you.

Disclaimer that I am not a Fatdog64 user or expert. Just a concerned citizen, trying my best to help you out.

Good luck!

Last edited by snowpine; 06-29-2018 at 04:29 PM.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 05:02 PM   #3
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Your post is about as useful as the sites you are complaining about. Guessing what you did, installed Bodhi and decided you wanted to use unetbootin for some reason so you went to their site and downloaded it. You should see a unetbootin icon in your /home/user?/Downloads folder. Right click the icon, select Properties from the new window, click the Permissions tab at the top of the window and you will see a check box next to mark as execxutable. Click it and close the window and then click/double-click the icon again and it should open and run. You don't need any "Program" to run it, it is one.

It should work well to create a bootable usb, at least with all the Linux supported distros listed on their home page. Their home page is also the best place to get basic instructions on using it. This is pretty basic stuff and you should be able to find thousands of sites explain how to set permissions on files, probably thousand of threads here at LQ.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 09:21 PM   #4
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Thanks much for your timely replies. I apologize for seemingly criticizing the forum here. I really was just grumbling about the support in general. Specifically, the very esoteric explanations for everything.

I am a pretty smart guy. I successfully managed billions and over a hundred people. I can figure things out for sure.

However, when I am fixing the truck, grocery shopping, etc. And trying to apply for a job, but can't because the window is too large to access save buttons, I get very flustered.

My immediate response is to try a more mature version of linux. The problem is (still unsolved) that I have been unable to change it.

I appreciate your assistance, however, just like the description on the site where I downloaded it, and several others, it is not helpful. There is no "make executable button. There is only a " make hidden" button. Ihave tried countless times to get the program to run.

I even manually put all the commands into the terminal. Everything successfully entered, then nothing.

So, here I am, typing on my phone because it is actually easier.

I am not regretful about finally getting rid of Windows. I am just irritated that I am on e again at the mercy of technology and its fickle nonsense.
 
Old 06-29-2018, 09:27 PM   #5
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Welcome to LinuxQuestions!

Please understand, we are all volunteers, doing this in our spare time, as a hobby. It's been less than a day since you posted your Unetbootin question, and we are all scattered around the globe in different time zones. Be patient.

Reading your other thread, it looks like your goal is to copy the "Fatdog64" distribution onto a USB thumb drive. Is my understanding of your question correct/accurate?

If so, I think these are the correct instructions to create a bootable Fatdog64 USB stick: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web...lashdrive.html

Please follow the directions carefully, step-by-step, and pay particular attention to this statement: "Please read all of the following steps carefully before actually doing anythig:" (sic)

If you get stuck, please stop what you are doing and post back here for help. Post specific details of what you have tried so far, the specific step where you get stuck, and any errors/output that the computer gives you.

Disclaimer that I am not a Fatdog64 user or expert. Just a concerned citizen, trying my best to help you out.

Good luck!
Thanks for the link. I read it and plan to try it later. I am tired of messing with this thing right now.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 06:21 AM   #6
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you still haven't provided a valid problem description.
on what "valid" means, please read some of the signature links of some mebers here.

we aren't a help desk; we want to help, but you always have to participate the most of all.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 07:35 AM   #7
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The only time I have seen a 'hidden' checkbox on unetbootin is when it is downloaded in windows. Even downloading the windows version on Linux should give you the make executable checkbox on a Linux system (Bodhi).

So to clarify, you are now booted into your Bodhi install, correct?
Which of the three versions of unetbootin on the page below did you select to download?

https://unetbootin.github.io/
 
Old 06-30-2018, 09:02 AM   #8
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Is there a reason you are trying to install unetbootin manually from their website instead of using the version in the Bodhi / Ubuntu repos that is very easy to install? In bodhi's default terminal (called terminology) run the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unetbootin
And then unetbootin should appear in your applications menu. If it doesn't for some reason you should also then be able to open it from the command line by calling:

Code:
sudo unetbootin
In general unless you have a specific reason to, on Linux you generally want to defer to the package manager for getting software as opposed to going to random websites and clicking download like on Windows.
 
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:23 AM   #9
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And trying to apply for a job, but can't because the window is too large to access save buttons, I get very flustered.
This is a pretty common problem, that a website is not designed for the small screen of a laptops, so a button you want to click is cut off at the bottom of the screen. Here are a few suggestions:

1. In most Linux (not sure about Bodhi) you can move a window by holding down the Alt key while you click and drag (or in some distributions, hold down the Windows/Super key while you click and drag). This will allow you to move the window so you can see the part that's cut off the bottom of the screen.
2. You can make a browser window go fullscreen by pressing F11. Using the entire screen might give you just enough extra "screen real estate" so you can see the button.
3. You can shrink the elements of a web page by pressing Ctrl and the minus key simultaneously. By making everything smaller, the whole webpage might fit onto the screen so you can click the button. (Press Ctrl and the plus key to make it bigger again when you're done.)
4. You can press the TAB key to toggle between active elements of a website. Press the TAB key repeatedly until the button you want to click is highlighted, then press Enter.

As you can see, there are several easy options to deal with a webpage that is not optimized for your screen. It is not necessary to completely reinstall your operating system! I wish you'd come to us sooner with your actual problem ("I can't apply for a job because the Submit button is cut off the bottom of my screen"). We could have saved you a lot of aggravation.
 
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Old 06-30-2018, 03:43 PM   #10
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This is a pretty common problem, that a website is not designed for the small screen of a laptops, so a button you want to click is cut off at the bottom of the screen. Here are a few suggestions:

1. In most Linux (not sure about Bodhi) you can move a window by holding down the Alt key while you click and drag (or in some distributions, hold down the Windows/Super key while you click and drag). This will allow you to move the window so you can see the part that's cut off the bottom of the screen.
2. You can make a browser window go fullscreen by pressing F11. Using the entire screen might give you just enough extra "screen real estate" so you can see the button.
3. You can shrink the elements of a web page by pressing Ctrl and the minus key simultaneously. By making everything smaller, the whole webpage might fit onto the screen so you can click the button. (Press Ctrl and the plus key to make it bigger again when you're done.)
4. You can press the TAB key to toggle between active elements of a website. Press the TAB key repeatedly until the button you want to click is highlighted, then press Enter.

As you can see, there are several easy options to deal with a webpage that is not optimized for your screen. It is not necessary to completely reinstall your operating system! I wish you'd come to us sooner with your actual problem ("I can't apply for a job because the Submit button is cut off the bottom of my screen"). We could have saved you a lot of aggravation.
Indeed, this does sound like a simple fix. I have been using a computer for about 20 years. I am familiar with all the optional ways of doing things. I appreciate your help. I wish it was that simple.

The 'save' button I was referring to is the one in LibreOffice Writer. I wanted to save my resume with a new name for a website. This was just one more thing that tells me that this bodhi install was actually corrupted or something.

The 'save file' screen opened so big that there was no top or bottom and no way to resize.
The tap-click does not work on the touchpad.
The double click does not work on the left touchpad button
The Midori browser crashed so many times that I figured out how to get Firefox. It works better, but still crashes periodically and can't seem to bring my previous tabs back.
The screen is not very nice to look at and getting something to open is a clumsy process.
Everything has required a lot of input thus far.

This is why I decided I would like to change the OS. Trying to find information has been like going back to electronics school in the Navy. I am forced to roll up my sleeves and learn enough to even ask a question.

I have typed so much into the terminal that I am burned out on looking at this damn screen. I am not a programmer nor do I want to be. I am a fixer. I just want to make it work and use it.

I was just trying to install Fatdog64, because that looked like a simpler process. I have downloaded the .iso file and figured out my drive name. I copied the commands exactly into the terminal. dd if=./home/juanfrancisco/downloads/Fatdog64-500.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M

"no such file or directory"

Yes, I started at the source. Bodhi Linux. The application install button does nothing. The Install button under the synaptic package asks me what program do I want to use to open it. I installed it via the terminal. I am still not sure if it will have anything for me. It looks like more to read.

That is why I went to some outside website to try and download another OS. There are only a few hundred Linux OSs. I don't mind trying more than one. I just want to be able to check email, use the web, and write. I also want to do it quickly so that I can do the things outside the computer that need to be done.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I have not much patience for frickin computers. They take up enough time from real life with fun things. I certainly don't want to spend countless more minutes trying to coax this stupid thing into working.

Respectfully,
John Guerin
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Old 06-30-2018, 04:53 PM   #11
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Is there a reason you are trying to install unetbootin manually from their website instead of using the version in the Bodhi / Ubuntu repos that is very easy to install? In bodhi's default terminal (called terminology) run the command:

Code:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unetbootin
And then unetbootin should appear in your applications menu. If it doesn't for some reason you should also then be able to open it from the command line by calling:

Code:
sudo unetbootin
In general unless you have a specific reason to, on Linux you generally want to defer to the package manager for getting software as opposed to going to random websites and clicking download like on Windows.
Oh yeah. I was excited to try this. It did some good stuff, like it was working...

...Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [83.2 kB]
Fetched 714 kB in 2min 4s (5,765 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package unetbootin

huh? Ok. I will try your other recommendation... sudo unetbootin

juanfrancisco@juanfrancisco-HP-Stream-Laptop-14-ax0XX:~$ sudo unetbootin
sudo: unetbootin: command not found
juanfrancisco@juanfrancisco-HP-Stream-Laptop-14-ax0XX:~$


I need to go let my neighbor's dogs out and cry a bit more. Ok, I'm kidding. Grumbling and cussing is more like it.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:01 PM   #12
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I understand your pain and have experienced similar problems with fixed size dialog windows that are to big. In most cases I could use the tab key to advance to the correct button.

Quote:
dd if=./home/juanfrancisco/downloads/Fatdog64-500.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M
Learning terminal shortcuts and how to navigate takes a bit of practice. The . at the beginning of the path to the file is a shortcut for current working directory however the command as posted on the webpage assumes that you are in the downloads directory so you do not need to use /home/juanfrancisco/downloads. linux is case sensitive and many distributions capitalize the major subdirectories i.e Downloads, Pictures, Documents. If you want to use the full absolute path then I assume since I do not run bodhi is:

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dd if=/home/juanfrancisco/Downloads/Fatdog64-500.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M
 
Old 06-30-2018, 06:08 PM   #13
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I don't see anything in your posts indicating which version of Bodhi you are using. If you downloaded the latest stable version, that would be based on Ubuntu 16.04. The link you posted was to the Ubuntu 18.04 (bionic) release. Not sure why you show trying to download from the 'security' repositories, it won't be there.

The link below explains how to access and download unetbootin from the Ubuntu repositories IF you are using Bodhi 4.0 or 4.5. If you are using some other version, don't use it. Not sure what's going on with your earlier downloaded unetbootin, never seen that before.

https://www.linuxbabe.com/beginners/...ve-usb-creator

Some of the suggestions above by michaelk (particularly the correct path and case sensitivity when using a terminal) should help and I would suggest that if you are using a tutorial with specific commands, read carefully and make sure that what the commands do is explained. If not, don't use them.

I'm not using Bodhi/Ubuntu but I get the same result you did when running 'unetbootin' from the user /home directory as well as from the Downloads directory where the unetbootin file resides. Change to your user Downloads directory (if that is where your unetbootin is) and either use the full name of the unetbootin iso or use * as shown below. Both options worked for me. If you have a different version of unetbootin that shown below, you need to put the correct name in the command. Should work if it's executable although I'm not sure you got that solved.

Quote:
./unetbootin-linux64-625.bin
./unetbootin*
 
Old 06-30-2018, 10:19 PM   #14
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I understand your pain and have experienced similar problems with fixed size dialog windows that are to big. In most cases I could use the tab key to advance to the correct button.



Learning terminal shortcuts and how to navigate takes a bit of practice. The . at the beginning of the path to the file is a shortcut for current working directory however the command as posted on the webpage assumes that you are in the downloads directory so you do not need to use /home/juanfrancisco/downloads. linux is case sensitive and many distributions capitalize the major subdirectories i.e Downloads, Pictures, Documents. If you want to use the full absolute path then I assume since I do not run bodhi is:
Once again, I was excited. I tried.

juanfrancisco@juanfrancisco-HP-Stream-Laptop-14-ax0XX:~$ dd if=/homejuanfrancisco/Downloads/Fatdog64-500.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M
dd: failed to open '/homejuanfrancisco/Downloads/Fatdog64-500.iso': No such file or directory

:-(
 
Old 06-30-2018, 10:22 PM   #15
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The link you posted was to the Ubuntu 18.04 (bionic) release. Not sure why you show trying to download from the 'security' repositories, it won't be there.
I copied it exactly from Jeff91's posted recommendation. I posted the exact response from the terminal.
 
  


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