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Old 05-15-2020, 07:11 PM   #1
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Problems with 5.1.0 Legacy installation.


Hi!

I'm attempting to install this distro on an old K7 Athlon XP Palomino, 32-bit, 1Gb RAM with two 40Gb IDE drives PC.
Had to work out boot media issues (Plop + Rufus).
So far it seems the installations are not "persistent". These are some factors that confuse me:

1- Attempted both "Erase disk and install..." and "Install alongside..." options, pointing to an empty secondary HDD with the same results.
2- I see little HDD activity during installation.
3- As per Bodhi Wiki, once upon completion, I don't get asked with "Restart Now" or removing media.
4- As per the installation process, once I complete the hostname, user, etc. data I get the clock cursor and a few minutes later get the regular desktop layout and icons.
5- Another thing that confuses me, is that in this desktop layout I see an "install Bodhi" icon in the bottom bar.
6- After rebooting and setting BIOS for HDD (Linux) boot, the process gets stuck on "Verifying DMI pool data".

Please let me know if there's something I can do before rebooting to check if the installation had actually completed. Or any other workaround. Thanks a lot!
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Old 05-16-2020, 10:23 AM   #2
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1- Attempted both "Erase disk and install..." and "Install alongside..." options, pointing to an empty secondary HDD with the same results.

Well, if the drive is blank, not sure what difference you'd expect, it can only install it along side something if its already there...


2- I see little HDD activity during installation.

Yeah, it has to copy stuff from the usb to your hard drive.

3- As per Bodhi Wiki, once upon completion, I don't get asked with "Restart Now" or removing media.

This is expected behavior with 5.1; I pointed this out to them too. That wiki is outdated.

4- As per the installation process, once I complete the hostname, user, etc. data I get the clock cursor and a few minutes later get the regular desktop layout and icons.

Nice.

5- Another thing that confuses me, is that in this desktop layout I see an "install Bodhi" icon in the bottom bar.


Feel free to remove that.


6- After rebooting and setting BIOS for HDD (Linux) boot, the process gets stuck on "Verifying DMI pool data".

This sounds like your real issue.
 
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Old 05-16-2020, 11:22 AM   #3
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6- After rebooting and setting BIOS for HDD (Linux) boot, the process gets stuck on "Verifying DMI pool data".

This sounds like your real issue.
Thanks Enigma. Is there anything I could do before rebooting to check if the installation had actually completed? Any other workaround? Thanks a lot!
Peperina.

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Old 05-16-2020, 12:08 PM   #4
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I would guess whatever setting(s) were changed in the BIOS to boot from the second HDD caused the computer to hang at Verifying DMI pool data. Reverse the changes or reset the BIOS to see if it boots again. Maybe the boot loader was not installed to the second hard drive.

Reboot the install media again and verify the second disk contains partitions etc. You should be able to mount and see files etc.

I installed 5.1 legacy to a virtual machine and did see the installation complete / restart message. If you started the disk as a live system then you would see the install Bodhi icon. If the computer was reboot then you might not of removed the plop and started the live session again. Otherwise your steps do not make sense since you would of had to set the BIOS to boot from the second hard drive since I don't remember a K7 motherboard having a separate boot menu option.

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Old 05-16-2020, 12:53 PM   #5
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I would guess whatever setting(s) were changed in the BIOS to boot from the second HDD caused the computer to hang at Verifying DMI pool data. Reverse the changes or reset the BIOS to see if it boots again. Maybe the boot loader was not installed to the second hard drive.

Reboot the install media again and verify the second disk contains partitions etc. You should be able to mount and see files etc.

I installed 5.1 legacy to a virtual machine and did see the installation complete / restart message. If you started the disk as a live system then you would see the install Bodhi icon. If the computer was reboot then you might not of removed the plop and started the live session again. Otherwise your steps do not make sense since you would of had to set the BIOS to boot from the second hard drive since I don't remember a K7 motherboard having a separate boot menu option.
Thanks Michael! Indeed, when my installation was "complete(?)", I didn't get the reboot and remove media notification. Therefore the Plop CD was still in. What I did is restart PC from the Bodhi GUI and then press the "Del" key at BIOS startup to change boot settings.
If you're patient with me, when you say to verify second disk partitions and mounting/seeing files; I'm guessing that should be done through a live-session terminal. If so, which are the commands? If you could just mention the core commands; I will then research all the arguments and options to narrow down. Thanks a lot!
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Old 05-16-2020, 01:24 PM   #6
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From a terminal window look at the output of the command
lsblk

You should see two disks i.e /dev/sda and /dev/sdb

To see whats inside the partitions start the file browser i.e places->home from the menu. Hopefully on the left side you should see several volumes. You can right click on either and select mount volume. From there you can click on the volume and view its contents.
 
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Old 05-16-2020, 02:51 PM   #7
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Thanks Michael! Another thing to note; when I boot from Plop, in an attempt for a workaround, I try to boot from HDB partition 1 (hdd1/linux drive) and I get "warning: no valid bootsector signature; continue Y/N". Does it provide a hint?
lsblk output displays sda sdb sdc and else.
From file manager, I'm able to see several volumes. As for the Linux ones, I see the "18GB" volume that contains bin, boot, cdrom, dev, etc, home, ... The "22GB" volume contains etc, lost+found, ...
Should I be looking for some specific file inside the 18GB volume boot folder? Thanks!

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Another thing to note; when I boot from Plop, in an attempt for a workaround, I try to boot from HDB partition 1 (hdd1/linux drive) and I get "warning: no valid bootsector signature; continue Y/N". Does it provide a hint?
lsblk output displays sda sdb sdc and else.
From file manager, I'm able to see several volumes. As for the Linux ones, I see the "18GB" volume that contains bin, boot, cdrom, dev, etc, home, ... The "22GB" volume contains etc, lost+found, ...
Should I be looking for some specific file inside the 18GB volume boot folder? Thanks!
It sounds as though grub is not installed on /dev/sda. When installing, are you changing the default grub install target?
 
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It sounds as though grub is not installed on /dev/sda. When installing, are you changing the default grub install target?
Thanks Ahen!I didn't change anything "grub" related (install process didn't provide indications on doing something with grub). BTW, as I understand, sda is my winXP drive (hdd0) and sdb is my Bodhi drive (hdd1, volumes "18GB" and "22GB"). Thanks,
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:28 PM   #10
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BTW, as I understand, sda is my winXP drive (hdd0) and sdb is my Bodhi drive (hdd1, volumes "18GB" and "22GB"). Thanks,
Peperina.
Oh, OK - what happens then if you boot from hdd0 - do you see the grub menu, or does the system just boot into XP?
 
Old 05-16-2020, 09:53 PM   #11
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You mentioned two partitions on disk 2. Are you saving half as NTFS for use with Windows, or why? Just curious.

If it were me, I'd use gparted and remove the paritions on disk 2, then install bodhi, tell it alongside windows, point it to disk 2, and let it go.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 10:23 AM   #12
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Thanks everyone! I'll research a little more on that Plop warning message, Linux's boot process and grub. (BTW, when I boot from hdd0 the machine boots XP as expected. No grub menu). Regards,
Peperina.
 
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:10 PM   #13
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BTW, when I boot from hdd0 the machine boots XP as expected. No grub menu
Well, that's not what I'd expect after a successful Bodhi install, because grub should be installed to the MBR of /dev/sda (hdd0). The grub menu should appear on booting from that drive and give you the option of running Bodhi or XP.
 
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Well, that's not what I'd expect after a successful Bodhi install, because grub should be installed to the MBR of /dev/sda (hdd0). The grub menu should appear on booting from that drive and give you the option of running Bodhi or XP.
Thanks! Actually I've devoted drive hdd1/sdb to Linux. Strange thing is there are no hints of grub files anywhere, like it never got installed. I will open a new thread on this grub issue.
 
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Old 05-18-2020, 09:11 PM   #15
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I wish I could try installing it for you

The grub bootlaoder somehow installs in part of the drive outside the normal file system, but it has to be on your boot drive. And by default it'll show a menu for a few seconds to give you the choice of windows or bodhi. So the actual grub bootloader is gunna be on your windows drive, if you don't want to mess up your windows existing configuration.

The actual grub config files and all that, that'll be on the disk you install bodhi, which does not have to be first boot disk.

So, when you install, you do want to tell it you're installing alongside windows. And then use the configure yourself bit about partition, and go find the right partition you want to put bodhi on. It sounds like to me you have two partitions on your 2nd drive, if you're saving one for another distro later or for use with windows, thats fine, otherwise just use the whole 2nd drive for bodhi. I can't remember the UI exactly but what you're trying to do is assign it as root and make it ext4.

And if you are saving some partition space for another linux distro, then it makes sense to actually put three partitions on that drive, make one a swap drive they could both share...

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