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Old 02-04-2019, 02:00 AM   #1
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Just Trying To Help


OK, here is where I am at this time in Bodhi 5.0.0 on my Lenovo ThinkPad T430. These are the things I've had to do to get it to run almost the way I want it to.

1. Install button is hidden in Applications -> Preferences
2. Do not use eepdater, use Terminal (Terminology) for update/dist-upgrade (updates hang after completion, look like they are still completing)
sudo apt update
sudo apt dist-upgrade
3. There is a conflict between esudo and policykit, causing several programs to not run correctly (including Grub Customizer and gDebi). Fix is:
sudo apt install --reinstall policykit-1
If you don't have PolicyKit Authentication Agent in your Startup list:
sudo apt-get install policykit-1-gnome
...and select it in Startup, and Save.
Then get rid of the use of the conflicting program:
sudo apt-mark hold esudo
4. Displays still not loading at bootup, have to do manual fix. (Still nowhere on this, but thanks to Moksha this is less of a problem than it would be in virtually any other desktop)

Is this all? Is it too much? Did I miss something?

Oh, yes I did.

5. Install Synaptic. Always helpful, especially for finding old games and silly things like CUPS...

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Old 02-04-2019, 02:49 AM   #2
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1. Install button is hidden in Applications -> Preferences
fully agree.
i had to go to the wiki, and even there it only says "From the Bodhi Live Environment, locate and click the Install Bodhi Linux icon." It being hidden is one thing, but that's just ridiculous. sorry.
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Displays still not loading at bootup, have to do manual fix. (Still nowhere on this, but thanks to Moksha this is less of a problem than it would be in virtually any other desktop)
see your other thread, it is fixed now, but just one more point about the totally unintuitive and possibly buggy settings panel.
also, i think even the most minimalist or beta DE should have its own screen resolution setting utility, so that chosen settings are applied automatically.

I don't usually dis other people's work, but this needs to be said.
otherwise bodhi is incredibly responsive even in a vm on a week host.
respect for keeping it alive.
 
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:52 AM   #3
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i have never had one issue amongst 4 laptops - 3 thinkpads and 1 dell re resolution. also this policykit was a recent upstream dynamic...


the same thing can be said of other distros - semi recent ubuntu not booting issue due to a kernel fix.upgrade that caused the non-boot issue. my opinion ubuntu never should have included butafter a week they did fix it so some things are not a certain distros fault but remnants of changes and new developments upstream.

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Old 02-04-2019, 11:38 PM   #4
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fully agree.

see your other thread, it is fixed now, but just one more point about the totally unintuitive and possibly buggy settings panel.
also, i think even the most minimalist or beta DE should have its own screen resolution setting utility, so that chosen settings are applied automatically.

I don't usually dis other people's work, but this needs to be said.
otherwise bodhi is incredibly responsive even in a vm on a week host.
respect for keeping it alive.
Hmmm, haven't seen a fix for it. I've asked for help, but not read it yet. I'll head over there soon as I'm done with this thread.

And to date, I don't do VMs. All metal, all the time. LOL
 
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Old 02-05-2019, 03:19 AM   #5
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I agree with odoho and zaivala.
The same Problem here when 1. trying to install Bodhi, 2. trying to change the Resolution of Screen.

To user hemlocktree:
If you only Reaction to Criticism is defense for your favorite distro, then you are not helping to make it better.
 
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:06 AM   #6
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i have had a few issues but generally it has been sweet. so i state things from my experience that is all. bodhi is not 100% perfect. just never had any resolution issues on any of my laptops using bodhi or mint or ubuntu.
 
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:19 AM   #7
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All bugs or little glitches are good to know for us. We appreciate them. We are planing new release in the not too distant future. Mainly included our theme work. I will ask Jeff to solve troubles with installator icon also. I am also missing the basic directories in the home dir like music, docs, download etc. I hope it will be answered

Stefan
 
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:15 AM   #8
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All bugs or little glitches are good to know for us. We appreciate them. We are planing new release in the not too distant future. Mainly included our theme work. I will ask Jeff to solve troubles with installator icon also. I am also missing the basic directories in the home dir like music, docs, download etc. I hope it will be answered

Stefan
Whether or not you manage to include an Install button (highly recommended, since you speak of it in the docs), you should also mention in the docs about the menu selection. Thanks for all your help.
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:51 PM   #9
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Hi Stefan

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All bugs or little glitches are good to know for us. We appreciate them. We are planing new release in the not too distant future. Mainly included our theme work. I will ask Jeff to solve troubles with installator icon also. I am also missing the basic directories in the home dir like music, docs, download etc. I hope it will be answered
Stefan
I thought these two commands fixed the issue with missing basic directories:
Code:
  sudo apt install xdg-user-dirs
  xdg-user-dirs-update
They're included in the command file I posted a week or two back.

Bob
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 12:55 PM   #10
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Yes Bob, fixed

But people don't know why the dirs are not there. I think they should be there by default

Stefan
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 04:49 PM   #11
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Yes Bob, fixed

But people don't know why the dirs are not there. I think they should be there by default

Stefan
Since the Bodhi philosophy is to install the absolute bare minimum, I think it's fair enough that they aren't default - but at the same time, I can see some new users installing Bodhi as a tryout, noticing they're not there, saying WTF?!?!?, and trying another distro.

Is this a possible/feasible/realistic solution? When installation has finished, an interactive application is run automatically, where the user selects what applications etc they wish to install, and the application either leverages sudo apt directly, or creates a runnable shell script. I know that Bodhi AppCenter tries to do this, but sadly it requires just too much mousing around to be of any real value. I'm thinking of an app that shows a page of options, and you tick all the ones you want and press GO.

But the app by itself would not be useful- it would need some form of automatic triggering as part of the installation process, otherwise many users would never know they need to run it.
 
Old 02-08-2019, 01:24 PM   #12
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Since the Bodhi philosophy is to install the absolute bare minimum, I think it's fair enough that they aren't default - but at the same time, I can see some new users installing Bodhi as a tryout, noticing they're not there, saying WTF?!?!?, and trying another distro.
i feel you.

but this xdg stuff is already installed anyhow (this is a pristine vm right after installation; i have NOT installed these, not even unknowingly as dependencies); it just needs to be autostarted.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:33 PM   #13
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ondoho - were you part of the old bodhi forum? just curious.

:-)))
 
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:40 AM   #14
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Exclamation On the subject of 'things' not being there?

I recently ran my Bodhi 5.0 'Live' DVD for the purposes of troubleshooting and was caught by surprise when I didn't find Network-Manager (is that still the name) and therefore had no possibility of internet connectivity. Midori was there, but I'm assuming the HTML pages it displayed were coming from local files.

After proceeding to a regular installation, I did have Network-Manager, but now I don't recall if it 'just appeared' at some point, or if I had to 'do' something to get it. This happened several months ago, at the time 5.0 was introduced.

For using the Live disc for troubleshooting, network connectivity could be useful. Am I missing something? Was Network-Manager there all along, and I just didn't see it?
 
Old 02-12-2019, 11:44 AM   #15
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if i recall the icon was not there on install but in the menu. then when updating etc and the restarting maybe it was there. been a long time ago too - that was the same on 2 thinkpads and 1 dell my wife has.
 
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