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Old 08-03-2014, 12:33 PM   #1
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Help with Bodhi e17 restore Panel and other settings


Hi guys, total noob to Bodhi and e17 here. Just finished installing it, was adding apps, and last one I added was the proposed Temperature module. Finding it useless I decided to remove it from the panel. I clicked on it's icon (the thermometer) and up popped "remove", so I clicked on that, and the whole menu PANEL disappeared!
I tried to restore it, by clicking on the desktop to bring up the menu, and found something called Panel (or X-windows panel I think - it is the only one I found). Only now, it shows some kind of X-panel (it has an X and a black mouse silhouette as icon). Now all the icons for apps have changed to generic ones (ie, for midori in the bottom launcher it's just a generic globe now with "internet" as the label). I hope someone is familiar with what I'm talking about. The entire Bodhi front-end seems to have disappeared from the menus and launcher.

Please, how can I undo this, and get Bodhi back to where it was before?

I've searched the Bodhi pages and haven't found anything on this.

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Old 08-03-2014, 03:26 PM   #2
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If you did this while logged in as a regular linux user (and not root), perhaps the easiest thing is to log in as root, and then wipe out and recreate the regular linux user account you had setup.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 03:37 PM   #3
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If you did this while logged in as a regular linux user (and not root), perhaps the easiest thing is to log in as root, and then wipe out and recreate the regular linux user account you had setup.
Oh yea! Kill the patient first, then look for a cure!

If they do this they will lose EVERYTHING in that user account - and you have no knowledge what that might be! Please do not offer such potentially harmful advice.

To the OP - I am not familiar with Bodhi/e17 so cannot offer immediate help, but if you cannot resolve it via the controls offered by the WM, then you could identify the config directory for the WM in the user's home directory (possibly ~/.e17/...?) and either wipe it clean or possibly remove selected files that would be replaced on the next login.

Either way, you will probably end up reconfiguring your desktop again as it sounds like you have caused multiple unwanted changes.

You might want to change the title of this thread to something more descriptive, maybe "Help with Bodhi and e17 panel" to attract more knowledgable users.

Be patient, I am sure someone familiar with Bodhi and e17 will chime in here soon.

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Old 08-03-2014, 05:58 PM   #4
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Thank you @astrogeek. I ended up getting an answer on the Bohdi support website, but it was a little bit frustrating getting there.
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.p...riginal-panel/

In the end, here is the (partial) cure:
open Terminal, type in:
" mv .e eold "

and restart.


But I have other problems now...
CPUfreq refuses to remember to stay at maximum speed after a reboot (I'm trying to help my neighbor recover his laptop that refuses to work in Windoze and is missing a battery, so it has to stay plugged in anyways).
It won't auto-connect to WiFi (have to run Everything to get Network after each reboot which is too much for the neighbor)
and the Start menu Icon has disappeared from the top left corner, and can't find what it is in adding widgets or whatever they are called - seems to me that I have tried all of them and it doesn't come back.

Is there an EASIER Linux than this one? That also runs in very little RAM (Bodhi requires 128MB)? But Bodhi is so fragile - I am afraid that if I give it to him he will break it every other day and I would be embarking on a never0ending support journey... for free.

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Old 08-03-2014, 07:44 PM   #5
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Thank you @astrogeek. I ended up getting an answer on the Bohdi support website, but it was a little bit frustrating getting there.
http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.p...riginal-panel/

In the end, here is the (partial) cure:
open Terminal, type in:
" mv .e eold "

and restart.


But I have other problems now...
CPUfreq refuses to remember to stay at maximum speed after a reboot (I'm trying to help my neighbor recover his laptop that refuses to work in Windoze and is missing a battery, so it has to stay plugged in anyways).
It won't auto-connect to WiFi (have to run Everything to get Network after each reboot which is too much for the neighbor)
and the Start menu Icon has disappeared from the top left corner, and can't find what it is in adding widgets or whatever they are called - seems to me that I have tried all of them and it doesn't come back.

OMG! is there an EASIER Linux than this one? That also runs in 128MB or very little RAM? This Bodhi is so fragile - I am afraid that if I give it to him he will break it every other day and I would be embarking on a never0ending support journey... for free.
Glad you made at least partial progress!

I sure know about the never ending support for free position - yea, stay out of that if you can!

I know nothing about Bodhi (and e17 sounds like a hard choice for a newbie) but I am a solid Slackware believer. Depending on your knowledge level, it might take a little more to configure, but it is NOT difficult - and rock solid.

The 128Mb memory limit might be a problem. I actually have a current Slackware running in 128Mb but I wouldn't try to browse the web or watch a video with it. If you can invest him in 500Mb or 1Gb of RAM it would do fine, and use Fluxbox or Xfce as the WM - both come with Slackware. (Firefox is a bit of a memory hog, not Slackware itself).

It kind of depends on what your friend has in mind for his Linux box. Browser and email would probably be OK with something like Dman Small Linux or Puppy Linux, and either of those would probably be fine with 128Mb.

It would also help if you could post the basic machine specs - CPU, hard drive, lspci output, etc.

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Old 08-03-2014, 11:23 PM   #6
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It kind of depends on what your friend has in mind for his Linux box. Browser and email would probably be OK with something like Dman Small Linux or Puppy Linux, and either of those would probably be fine with 128Mb.
It would also help if you could post the basic machine specs - CPU, hard drive, lspci output, etc.
Sorry @astrogeek, I did not mean to be misleading. I've corrected my wording. The box has a single core 2ghz cpu, 2GB of RAM, but I don't want an OS that actually needs even half of that. My rule of thumb has always been to have times 8 what you need, and it's always served me well. If it needs minimum 256mb I'm still plenty happy.

I think I will try Pinguy OS on it (for the look and feel), and if it doesn't run fast enough, Peppermint5 (for it being from one of the Mint developers who is more efficiency-conscious). I really need something I can install and forget with this guy.

Sidenote on email as a "requirement": Allow me to mention one thing though... I've been living on webmail for a couple of decades now - I always believed that you don't want to let the viruses in and then scan it - let someone else worry about it (you may respond that the viruses only affect Windoze computers - but when you forward something, you are an enabler). Your hard drive crashes? No problem - someone with infinitely more ressources than you, RAID arrays on SAN etc, has your back with your data - they worry about all the hassles, definition updates etc. So I feel that email should never even be in the conversation when speaking of system requirements - browser yes - but use gmail or ymail or hotmail. Just my 5 cents.

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Old 08-04-2014, 12:37 AM   #7
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No problem, but with 2ghz/2GB most any current GNU/Linux distro should be able to run just fine.

I am really a one-trick-pony when it comes to OS - Slackware everywhere, all the time (save for a recent dalliance with FreeBSD). I won't push you in that direction except to say that it might be worth a test drive as long as you are trying others - you can always install over it!

Slackware with Fluxbox or Xfce will perform terrific on that box, at least as far as CPU/RAM and will come with pretty much everything he may need for normal use if you do a full install ~7GB.

Good luck with whatever you use though!
 
Old 08-06-2014, 05:39 PM   #8
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If you did this while logged in as a regular linux user (and not root), perhaps the easiest thing is to log in as root, and then wipe out and recreate the regular linux user account you had setup.
I have no idea... I just installed it and followed the prompts. One main user and password is what setup has you do.
It also wouldn't allow me to set a flag for the boot partition after i had it create two paritions (wanting one for Linux and one for Data) - I ended up having to let it place everything into the same one. Not good if one day I need to reinstall and save the data! (or upgrade to version 3 or whatever).

The laptop is now back in the neighbors' hands, and haven't heard back from them. No news is good news.

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Old 08-07-2014, 12:15 PM   #9
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I have no idea... I just installed it and followed the prompts. One main user and password is what setup has you do.
To find out what user you are, open up a terminal shell and then type "whoami" (without the "s) followed by the <ENTER> key at the terminal prompt. If the response is anything other than root, you are running as a regular linux user.

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It also wouldn't allow me to set a flag for the boot partition after i had it create two paritions (wanting one for Linux and one for Data) - I ended up having to let it place everything into the same one. Not good if one day I need to reinstall and save the data! (or upgrade to version 3 or whatever).
Personally, I keep regular rolling backups of /root and all data from /home on an external USB hard drive. As I heard once: your data doesn't exist unless it exists in two (or more) different places at the same time. That way, I know I can restore my data from elsewhere even if I have to completely wipe my system.
 
Old 08-08-2014, 07:51 PM   #10
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To find out what user you are, open up a terminal shell and then type "whoami" (without the "s) followed by the <ENTER> key at the terminal prompt. If the response is anything other than root, you are running as a regular linux user.
Thanks - the laptop is back with it's owner - if I get the chance again, I'll do that.

Personally, I keep regular rolling backups of /root and all data from /home on an external USB hard drive. As I heard once: your data doesn't exist unless it exists in two (or more) different places at the same time. That way, I know I can restore my data from elsewhere even if I have to completely wipe my system.
So is /home the place where all the user data files are placed then? (like My Documents in Windoze?)
All I would need to to is remap /home to the second partition.
(And yes, I do backup all data to a usb hdd 1tb that I have.)
 
Old 08-09-2014, 12:06 AM   #11
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Roughly speaking:

/home corresponds to C:\Documents and Settings (or C:\Users)
/usr corresponds to C:\Program Files
/etc corresponds to windows registry and other .ini files in
C:\windows

Except that linux is much cleaner and much more stable than windows, and regular users running under linux can actually do things unlike the virtually useless guest account in windows.
 
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Xode thank you for the info.

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Glad you made at least partial progress! I sure know about the never ending support for free position - yea, stay out of that if you can!
Yeah, for free. The other day, she complained that her games in facebook didn't work. Ugh! I'm pretty sure that I know what it is - it's the Midori browser setup - in settings, it is set to allow only cookies from the websites you visit. But I find it insulting, that after the trouble I put in, saving her laptop that a "tech" got to work only temporarily again under windoze, she is preoccupied with some bloody FB spyware "games". (Yes, Flash is installed, as are the codecs and other software)

I really liked the webpage it presents you with on startup. There is a section for common software requests. From there you can just add what you want, without going through the usual synaptic (which I like but can be intimidating for new users), like add flash, codecs, common packages, etc. I think it's brilliant: they didn't write another app for that - just did it through web. Cool!

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