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Old 02-11-2020, 08:49 AM   #31
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i wasn't trying to give you more work. the config program will work with or without icons as far as i can tell. i was just noting their absence since the other tabs had them.
 
Old 02-11-2020, 08:57 AM   #32
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I wanna be perfectionalist in this but I did not consider how much work it takes. Also every one app has its own icon. I am not able to redraw icon for each existing app on the Linux scene...
 
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:13 AM   #33
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one more thing i just came across is that neither lxappearance nor setting the application theme in the settings menu (i have them both set to the same theme) is changing my application theme. i have tried 3 different themes (crux, adwaita and arc) and none of them change libreoffice writer like they used to. lxappearance was helpful enough to change the font size, but every time i open it is back to MokshaArcGreen.
 
Old 02-11-2020, 09:24 AM   #34
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that looks like it has something to do with the system-wide MokshaArcGreen theme. when i switch to default (i prefer the green clock and icons), it takes the application themes and changes things accordingly (also tried with 3 themes - all worked).
 
Old 02-11-2020, 09:29 AM   #35
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Listen, I added an option "match GTK theme if possible" to the app theme setting dialog by default. You need to uncheck that option and choose your favorite GTK theme. Same for icons set. My goal is now a new feature for theming the whole desktop with E/Moksha theme, ELM theme, GTK theme, Icon set and splash screen automatically from one place.

I will show you some screenshots when I get home in the evening. Now some duties with kids.

Stefan
 
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:47 AM   #36
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i believe i found it as "match moksha theme if possible" and unchecking that does indeed allow crux to be applied. thanks as usual for all of your work and help
 
Old 02-11-2020, 10:24 AM   #37
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OK, third round of test results: it appears that apt-xapian-index is installed by default in Bodhi 5.1. This is, in my opinion, unfortunate because of two reasons:

1. It slows things down at times, because of (largely useless) index creation. This doesn't appear to fit the purpose of Bodhi, namely being lightweight;

2. It's flawed; apt-xapian-index creates a "quick search" box in Synaptic which works badly. If you use that box for finding packages with Synaptic, you soon find that it produces much less results than when you search Synaptic with its own ordinary Search button next to it.

Probably for these reasons, Linux Mint has removed apt-xapian-index from the default installation some time ago. I think Bodhi would do well if it would remove apt-xapian-index also...

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Old 02-11-2020, 10:50 AM   #38
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i believe i found it as "match moksha theme if possible" and unchecking that does indeed allow crux to be applied. thanks as usual for all of your work and help
Yes, it is it. You have found it. I did not have Bodhi nearby to look and check. Anyway, enjoy new feature

PS: you can also tell me which icon set is suitable for other maintained themes. I can add them to the theme to switch when theme is selected.
 
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Old 02-11-2020, 02:22 PM   #39
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2. i have always wondered why elementary config isn't listed in the regular applications -> preferences menu where lxappearance and qt4/qt5 configs get put instead of just in settings.
The elm config is presented here:
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-5e...9.72924830.jpg
 
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:47 PM   #40
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It is supposed to be hid in the menu on the ISO. That is usually what Jeff does.

Anyway, I asked Raster about all the error messages it throws in stdout. It has gotten ridiculous over the last few years. Raster says it is not going to be fixed and in the future at some unspecified time It is going to be replaced. If you want it to show in the menu edit the desktop file. But regardless it launches from a terminal or our quick Launcher with no issues.
 
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:56 PM   #41
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@Kiezel, nice testing and reviews so far. I will take all you mention into consideration when I release the alpha ISOs

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2. i don't have swami installed. i didn't see anything about it in the changelog, but i'm not even sure if that is part of the apppack which is the version i typically installed in the past.

3. in firefox when i right-click on the icon in the top left and choose "edit icon" the window that opens is far too wide for my screen. a similar thing happens when i try to save anything in firefox. the save window is far too large (wide and long) to see everything. there is a thread here about that in the past version of 5 if you want me to link it. Stefan helped me figure out how to move the windows with alt + left-click grab in that thread (resizing gets the window to show up with the correct dimensions the following times, but to get to the edges to even be able to resize requires a bit of work), but it would seem like the system should know my window dimensions. i do have everything scaled to 2.2 to be able to see.

4. similarly, when i open some programs maximized (vlc and libreoffice calc for example) the very bottom of the window is below the shelf. it is a tiny amount and minimizing then resizing fixes that for future runs, but just wanted to add that it happens.

5. i get mild audio feedback when typing in my password after i have chosen to install a program through the appcenter. the same is true when i type in a title for a terminology instance. it does not happen when i type my password to launch synaptic, lightdm or password for sudo in terminology.
On these 'issues' ...

Swami is not going to be installed by default.

The size of the desktop editor window for some apps such as firefox is a known issue and non trivial to fix. It has been like this since it was added to enlightenment and it is still like that in e23. I have examined the code and to fix would require to much for me to mess with at this point in time.

Issue 4 regarding some windows maximized I haven't examined but unless it is a trivial fix I am not going to mess with it with the pending release so close.

The typing sound in esudo and other elementary applications is the default elementary configuration. It can be changed by running elementary_config, I am undecided on changing that default on the ISO.
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:59 PM   #42
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Just happened to see ...

I noticed the 5.1 showed up in About Bodhi Linux, in the Start menu. I must have inadvertently picked it up in Synaptic gathering goodies. I like the Latte-style task dock.
Thank you, good Bodhi folk, for all the effort put into this.
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:05 PM   #43
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a couple more that i overlooked:

1. elementary config is missing icons for profiles, scrolling, rendering, caches, focus and etc.
OK, I looked at the efl code why there are not toolbar icons. Simply they are not there NULL means no icon.

https://i.imgur.com/RXmFVW3.jpg

Stefan

EDIT: just played with the Profiles item icon. Not a big deal to add one.
https://i.imgur.com/re4Evhp.jpg

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Old 02-12-2020, 06:50 PM   #44
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I have a final feature request: maybe it would be a good idea to have a dedicated popup window upon first boot, that tells the user to take care of updates by means of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".

Updating is such an essential part of system administration, that it probably deserves its own dedicated popup instead of "being buried" in a lot of other recommendations.

Well, barring some unforeseen disaster: I can't find any more bugs or missing features. Apart from what I've reported already, I simply can't discover anything else to improve in Bodhi 5.1.

It's a thing of beauty: practically without an ounce of superfluous fat on it, it's aimed straight at being extremely lightweight by default. It's fully up to the user to "fatten it up" if and wherever he chooses. It's like a streamlined arrow. Impressive.
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:11 PM   #45
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I have a final feature request: maybe it would be a good idea to have a dedicated popup window upon first boot, that tells the user to take care of updates by means of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".

Updating is such an essential part of system administration, that it probably deserves its own dedicated popup instead of "being buried" in a lot of other recommendations.

Well, barring some unforeseen disaster: I can't find any more bugs or missing features. Apart from what I've reported already, I simply can't discover anything else to improve in Bodhi 5.1.

It's a thing of beauty: practically without an ounce of superfluous fat on it, it's aimed straight at being extremely lightweight by default. It's fully up to the user to "fatten it up" if and wherever he chooses. It's like a streamlined arrow. Impressive.
i disagree. this would just add clutter. am not very knowledgeable about linux but even i know to update after installing os and any application/package. there is a choice to install with all updates and extra codec packages.

i aways run live and get wireless working and then install after that. just my thing.
 
  


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