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Old 02-22-2019, 03:25 PM   #1
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Bodhi Installation Without Live-System?


Greetings!
Im just wondering if it es REALLY necessary to first start the live Version of Bodhi, and over it, start the installation? If it is like this - WHY??? I got an very old Laptop, with 400 Mhz Intel CPU, and over 600 MB Ram. It took my 20 Minutes to discover and load the "Install Button", maybe missed it, the "Volume Control" started, and now it is "frozen" and I have to wait until the Battery is empty, because there are no other options...
Very smart solution for old systems / replacing Windows XP .
 
Old 02-22-2019, 04:01 PM   #2
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i start the live to generally make sure no issues and get wifi connected. i know bodhi and my laptops so i do not check much out. i install the appack. i then install from there. i do not see an issue. i also do not remeber if an icon does show up or the install bodhi is in the menu - have a look see. if frozen then powerdown via the button -
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:23 PM   #3
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Thank you so far.
It is not a very nice idea, to run a live system on a very old system - in my case every operation takes minutes (for example to open the start menue). I do not want a wifi-connection, just want to install a very basic system. I dont know how to reach the appack. Just followed the instructions on the Bodhi-Wiki. Powerdown also did not work anymore - the computer is to busy for.
In my case it seems that it is not possible to install Bodhi.
Any suggestions what Linux distribution could do the job?
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 04:54 PM   #4
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appack is on the website. also when you run the cd/dvd or whatever then just hit install and do not worry about wifi. it can help update upon install but doing it later if possible also hold the power button down until it quits.
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:02 PM   #5
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Thanks again, but I just want a basic system; that thing is VERY old and slow. Meanwhile I found a solution - if anyone else discovers this thread some day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-...x_distribution
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:08 PM   #6
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bodhi is lighter than that from my experiences so not sure what your issue is. be patient - you have to load the os before you can hit install!!!!! there are non-live bodhi's or ubuntus that i know of. debian does i believe.
 
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:46 PM   #7
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... I got an very old Laptop, with 400 Mhz Intel CPU, and over 600 MB Ram.
I think your problem is the system RAM. That's not a standard RAM-chip size -- 512MB would be more like it.

I just installed Bodhi 5.0 in a netbook that originally came with a 512MB chip and the installation ran extremely slowly. I borrowed a 1GB chip from a spare laptop, and that was much better. After the 2GiB chips arrived, later installations practically 'flew'.

Even if your laptop is very old, you should know that even 2GB chips are now available at extremely reasonable prices on eBay (less that $5 each).

I assume you're installing 5.0? If you don't want to upgrade your RAM, try an older Bodhi version, one that's still supported. But even with an older Bodhi, if you want to run the current version of Firefox, however, you'll be wishing you had the 2GiB chips, or you'll be running mostly from swap ... and very, very slowly.

This isn't the fault of Bodhi, by the way, but of the ever-expanding Ubuntu base upon which Bodhi is based.
 
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Old 02-23-2019, 05:41 PM   #8
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Thanks, I try to install more RAM. A live-OS needs much more memory as if youd install directly.
The only task of that old machine is watching videos. Before there was a Windows XP, which was running fast enough, but needed some video codecs / VLC Player didt run. So I got the Idee to replace it with a Linux-System.
So far.
 
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Old 02-24-2019, 11:33 AM   #9
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I'm not sure the memory is bottleneck in this case. Virtual machine with 512 Mb is quite enough for comfortable installation and use.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 09:06 AM   #10
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I'm not sure the memory is bottleneck in this case. Virtual machine with 512 Mb is quite enough for comfortable installation and use.
Meanwhile also Im not sure. That thing is more than 20 years old. As I wrote - Windows XP ran "ok", but I want to exchange wiht a Linux-Distribution. I tried "Bunsenlabs Linux", the installation ran through, but at one point it said "...could not indentify network-card..."; the system "boots", but into nothing.
Memory is not cheap - just found some at the german ebay - costs about 40 $.
Now I think about the "overall situation".
 
Old 02-26-2019, 09:37 AM   #11
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The only task of that old machine is watching videos.
400MHz - this is extremely slow CPU for video decoding. Your laptop have general-purpose unit which does not have hardware optimized for modern multimedia. Videoadapter, I think, is 2D "desktop graphics" optimized too.
 
Old 02-26-2019, 03:13 PM   #12
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for what it is worth i got debian 9.8 gnome 3? to work and run on an old macbook with technically less than 1 gb ram.. mattr of fact lubuntu refused to install due to the 1 gbram req. or maybe i could have pushed the install. sure you cannot have too many things open bt i have had a few going and it works. it was a doorstop ntil i tried to get debian to work. was not an lxde fan though probably better than xfce to me.
 
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:17 PM   #13
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mattr of fact lubuntu refused to install due to the 1 gbram req. or maybe i could have pushed the install.
i have read somewhere (though i couldn't find the bookmark the other day) that ubiquity (the installer for the ubuntu variants [and maybe bodhi as well?]) requires at least 1 gb of ram to operate.
 
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:37 PM   #14
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My experience agrees with that of cordx and hemlocktree.
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I just installed Bodhi 5.0 in a netbook that originally came with a 512MB chip and the installation ran extremely slowly. I borrowed a 1GB chip from a spare laptop, and that was much better. After the 2GiB chips arrived, later installations practically 'flew'. ...
With the original memory chip, the installation was 'like watching paint dry'.
 
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:50 PM   #15
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thanks cordx.

the debain mac does not fly but i ran another old thinpad with mint was it that was slow as ....

concrete cured in that period of time.... heh heh heh
 
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