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cordx 10-14-2018 01:56 AM

bodhi 5.0 scaling vs. 4.5 elementary config
 
i installed bodhi 5.0 about a month ago after the hdd started to die on my 4.5 install and i bought a new one. i am enjoying the upgrade, but having trouble with sizing issues within windows. changing the scaling to 2.2 for my tired old eyes has helped a bit. the window titles and taskbar panel have increased by a helpful amount. of course in firefox i can ctrl + to get pages to a size that i like, but a lot of the program menus and buttons still aren't very easy to read.

i've only been using linux exclusively (bodhi for the most part) for the past year so please forgive me if this is an easy fix. i have tried poking around as much as i can think of in the settings menu (which also scaled up very nicely), but haven't found one setting which will help almost universally. tried a couple different themes and they mostly look the same with regards to text size. read a little about xrandr and wondered if maybe i needed to change my screen resolution, but thought i would ask here first to see if someone had a helpful thought or two before going that route.

i even got to where i wasn't sure what was easier in bodhi 4.5 so i went ahead and reinstalled that to a spare partition and found the elementary config panel which seemed to help a bit more than just changing scaling in the settings menu. i am including a screenshot of the same program (eepdater) in 4.5 with elementary config scaling on the left and 5.0 settings menu scaling on the right to hopefully illustrate the point a little better :)

i have ubuntu mate (also of the 18.04 iteration) installed on my second partition just in case i bork this one and need a place to work on repairs and regroup. one of their tweak or settings menus simply let me increase both the desktop font size as well as the application font size and that seemed to be what i was looking for. not that i want to migrate to ubuntu mate. i like bodhi quite a bit. just giving that example in case there is something similar here that i have simply overlooked.

https://imgur.com/a/TICuSHJ

the_waiter 10-14-2018 02:26 AM

Hello there

I understand your issue. I will try to explain some details about GUI layers under Bodhi Linux. Bodhi uses enlightenment desktop (later Moksha) and it consists of 2 widget toolkits. The first one uses older enlightenment widgets like main menus, toolbars in settings, entry dialogs, windows title bars etc. These widgets you can scale in Setting panel-Look tab-Scaling. The second layer consists of elementary widgets (Epad, Eepdater are created under it) and you successfully found the Elementary_config dialog for changing the scaling. Unfortunately some apps uses the different widget toolkit like GTK or Qt etc which you have to control separately. So, for GTK aps like GIMP I can recommend installing package called lxappearance where you can set the text size value.

https://i.imgur.com/gPPBWqT.jpg

I hope this is what you were looking for :)

Stefan

cordx 10-14-2018 03:27 AM

so very helpful! thank you :)

i have to admit that i hadn't found the elementary_config in 5.0 until you mentioned it and it occurred to me to try typing that into the quick launcher. one of the reasons i re-installed 4.5 was to see if i had actually seen it there and to try and figure out where it might be hiding. it doesn't show up (in 5.0) under my list of applications -> preferences or preferences in the settings menu. made me wonder if my install was a bit off or if it wasn't intended to show up.

thank you as well for explaining the different layers. one of the reasons i have enjoyed linux in general and bodhi specifically is the ability not only to change bits here and there, but also being able to search for solutions and finding generally good help on how to make that issue go away. of course, one has to have the correct search terms. i admit to still being a bit lost when it comes to many of the intricacies of gtk or qt or xorg and the like.

i just have a couple apps that didn't respond (clementine, timeshift and vlc that i can see so far). is there a way that you know of for me to look into them to see what toolkit they were developed with so i can try and find a program like lxappearance to modify their appearance? if not, so very thank you for all of your help so far :) i can start adding search terms to see what i can see.

cordx 10-14-2018 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5914522)
I hope this is what you were looking for :)

not to be overly dramatic, but the eyestrain you have saved me in pcmanfm alone is wow :)

the_waiter 10-14-2018 04:29 AM

Cool to hear. I am glad I could help you.

Anyway, I will help your eyes more :)

Clementine: the app is based on qt4. You have to install this package qt4-qtconfig. When you run it, just switch to Fonts tab and select the suitable font size. Then do not forgot to save your setup under file menu item.

https://i.imgur.com/6ggSxYz.jpg

Timeshift: hmm, it will be a tricky one. No sure what it is based on.
VLC: QT5 app. I installed qt5ct for settings. I can control the font antialliasing and more but still not the font size. Let me have some more time to look deeper into it.

Stefan

the_waiter 10-14-2018 04:50 AM

OK, Timeshift solved. It is based on GTK3

Open the file you can see in the title bar and change the font size.

https://i.imgur.com/1q6QZ7G.jpg

Stefan

cordx 10-14-2018 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5914554)
Clementine: the app is based on qt4. You have to install this package qt4-qtconfig. When you run it, just switch to Fonts tab and select the suitable font size. Then do not forgot to save your setup under file menu item.

worked perfectly as described :)

cordx 10-14-2018 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5914560)
OK, Timeshift solved. It is based on GTK3

i was a goof and didn't think to reboot before saying it didn't work. this one changed with your original lxappearance recommendation. serious thanks for all of your kind help :)

the_waiter 10-14-2018 05:28 AM

:)

Enjoy the beauty, speed and community of Bodhi Linux :)

Stefan

cordx 10-18-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5914569)
:)

Enjoy the beauty, speed and community of Bodhi Linux :)

Stefan

i definitely have grown to really enjoy bodhi for those reasons. interesting side effect of increasing scaling lead to an issue in firefox when i attempt to attach images. the choose an image dialog box is now so big that i can't get to the upper left corner to switch folders. i think i know how to fix this, but just wanted to add a note while i was thinking about it :)

https://imgur.com/a/sw9GkA4

cordx 10-22-2018 12:45 PM

had to scale the gtk back to normal because i couldn't access most of the folders in the upper left of the screen or change the file name. doing that also gave me access to the save button (before i could just hit enter) at the bottom. liked having the bigger font, but just couldn't do without the functionality in the end.

the_waiter 10-22-2018 12:53 PM

cord, you can move your fileopendialog window with mouse this way: press alt + grab window with left mouse button and move it on the screen. I hope this could help you...

cordx 10-22-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5917965)
I hope this could help you...

that did the trick! you are so very kind. thanks again :)

the_waiter 10-22-2018 01:01 PM

You are welcome :)

cordx 01-10-2019 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by the_waiter (Post 5917965)
cord, you can move your fileopendialog window with mouse this way: press alt + grab window with left mouse button and move it on the screen.

just wanted to give a little more feedback on this one since it came up in a more recent thread: this works for me probably 95% of the time. on the very odd occasion, if i try to rename a file i am downloading (for example) after having navigated into the correct directory using the enter key does not work for whatever reason. in those instances i have tried to reposition the window so that i can hit the enter button at the bottom, but the window won't go far enough up the screen to do so. then i have to cancel that window and choose save again. the next time i just accept the default file name and download location and proceed to rename and move with my file manager.

not a terrible workaround, just something i have run into since there is still an issue of windows being too big for the screen because of scaling. i definitely enjoy bodhi more than that odd occurrence pops up :)


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