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Chropera seems to behave a little bit better than Chrome/ium

Posted 01-27-2015 at 05:05 PM by the dsc
Updated 01-27-2015 at 05:09 PM by the dsc

Just pointing out just in case someone finds oneself annoyed by Chrome/ium seemingly entering in neverending loops and reading or writing who-knows-what in the HDD for too long. I have the impression that the new Opera behaves somewhat better in this regard, but I really haven't used it as much, so could be just a matter of time until it hangs just as much.

Unfortunately, however, the new GUI is still somewhat like just a crippled Chrome GUI -- scrolling the wheel over the tab-bar won't switch tabs. And to give a little bit of extra annoyance, the menu is on the left side (where it classically have always been, until Chrome, which was ten copied by firefox, if I'm not mistaken).

If you were once used to Opera's mouse gestures, I think they're still there -- except for hold right click+wheeling to switch tabs.

Chrome extensions are largely compatible, there's an Opera extension to make them available at the Chrome webstore. I may be somewhat prejudiced but I don't find the Opera's own extensions that inspiring in terms of trust, though. Just a general feeling, plus the fact that even one or another of Chrome's extensions have been scams or hacks of some sort. It's just likely that Opera has even less people to detect this sort of thing.

I wish they managed to keep the web-browsing core of Chrome but recreated the incredible, incomparable, hyper-ultra-uber-customizable in all functional aspects GUI of the Opera-Presto (RIP). Then perhaps they could even release an Opera OS.
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    I wish they managed to keep the web-browsing core of Chrome but recreated the incredible, incomparable, hyper-ultra-uber-customizable in all functional aspects GUI of the Opera-Presto (RIP).
    That was what I was expecting when they first announced the switch to webkit/blink. Oh well, guess we're just not allowed to have 'nice things'.
    Posted 01-28-2015 at 06:41 AM by GazL GazL is offline
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    But it seems that they're slowly re-operaifying the UI, somewhat. At least it was even more of a Chrome clone a few versions ago (back with the first Linux version), now it already looks more like the default Opera 12 or some of the last Prestos, one of the versions with a minimalistic GUI, as opposed to earlier ones which tended to be cluttered.

    In the other hand they have an entirely new bookmark management thing that I didn't like at all, so it seems that their goal isn't necessarely to recreate the old GUI, but to create another one.

    There are some browsers on linux that I think that theoretically could be somewhat like "replacements" for Opera, regarding the ultra-customizable GUIs. UZBL is the one whose name I remember, but there are some others called something like m3o (I think there's a number, probably "3", amidst a two or three letters), hbro, and surf. I think they or some of them follow a openbox-like philosophy, where theoretically one could create a GUI and other stuff through some config files and auxiliary scripts or apps. But I never really got around to try to make something.
    Posted 01-28-2015 at 10:23 PM by the dsc the dsc is offline
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    Kinda on and off topic at the same time. On my 64bit Linux installs, I run Opera-Developer and am quite happy doing so. I am not as old school techy as you guys. So I cannot miss what I do not know about. I posted what my opera can do in this thread.

    Now for the off topic stuff since it does not really concern browsers at all.
    I have been a Linux user for some time. A Distro team member. In other words. I can maneuver comfortably installing Gnu/Linux and running it on any hardware short of a

    I have been purchasing touchscreen atom n270 netbooks with 1 gig of ram and 60 gig zif platter hard drives. For under 50 bucks.
    I have the earlier model. Non Touchscreen. N270 atom versions with 1 gig of ram and 30 gig zif platter hard drives.
    All working and run good.

    I am selling the non touch screens in my small town to cover getting the newer touch screen netbook costs, so I get them for free with some change left over.
    I sold one with XP SP3 in 20 minutes after putting the ad out. The next day someone else called asking for the other which had Windows 7 Ultimate on it.

    The dude looking at the netbook thought Windows 7 with 1 gig of ram a little weak and decided to pass. That and everyone wants something for nothing.
    So. I know I cannot sell these in my small town with Linux on them. I could do a XP SP3 install on the other one.
    But I have another idea.

    Maybe making it a Android/ChromeOS type netbook might make a better selling point with this younger generation.
    So my next plan is to

    Sorry, if I highjacked your blog. Tell a mod to delete if it is a PITA reply.

    I run UZBL as a backup browser in my AntiX testing installs because it renders images and videos in terminal.
    It pulls in a little more ram and cpu than I thought it would.
    Netsurf is OK. But I'd rather fly with Dillo 2.2.

    Only thing I use any thing Named Chrome for is My Chromebook operating system and ISOs. I do not like the browser by itself so much when there are lots of choices.
    Too each their own though. As far as

    where theoretically one could create a GUI and other stuff through some config files and auxiliary scripts or apps
    I am somewhat skilled. But that is outside of my skill set.
    Posted 01-31-2015 at 07:22 AM by rokytnji rokytnji is offline
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    The way I understood, the whole thing of creating a GUI for some of those browsers (one or two specifically that are/is sort of intended to be used that way) doesn't really require much "skill" per se, or... well, at least just the sort of "skill" required to edit openbox' menu.xml and add pipe menu scripts and such things. Not like being a programmer or anything, but it does require reference to the "syntax" of the whole thing. Or at least that's the impression that I got from descriptions I've read, but I haven't yet seem any sort of following/community-sharing of customized GUIs, like there is for openbox (and like there was for Opera, even though it was mostly made from the GUI itself).

    The browser I thought was "m3o" is actually "dwb".
    Posted 01-31-2015 at 11:35 PM by the dsc the dsc is offline


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