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My Philosophy of a Gnu/Linux Slackware user.

Posted 06-24-2015 at 12:20 AM by onebuck
Updated 06-24-2015 at 10:38 AM by onebuck


I am a Gnu/Linux Slackware user. And that provides me with a UNIX-like system which affords me a stable Gnu/Linux that I utilize daily. Of late I have heard so many times that I/we can be bullies within the Slackware forum. From my perspective I find this as false and sometimes just that some members do not interpreted or appreciate our direct involvement with a stable Gnu/Linux distribution by our interactions with a friendly community here at LQ.

Do I cause someone to misinterpret my postings?? Probably since I tend to be direct and do not wish to hold someone's hand to get to a solution. Do I expect a member who queries the forum to have positive interactions?? Yes! I expect someone who wishes assistance to have the respect to at least interact with LQ members in a professional manner and not whine when we request additional information in order to fulfill their request. That is polite and does at least follow the helpful suggestions within;
FYI: Netiquette is a set of social conventions that facilitate interaction over networks, ranging from Usenet and mailing lists to blogs and forums.

FYI: I suggest that you look at 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' so in the future your queries provide information that will aid us in diagnosis of the problem or query.
Do we as Gnu/Linux Slackware users need to have a softer touch with interacting with members who fail to help themselves? No, we need to be open and query or suggest to that same type of user for additional information in order to help them solve a problem that they may have inadvertently created by their lack of positive interaction or attempts to help themselves. That is why I do provide the above links so that same user so as they can help us help them.

Do I come across as terse? Yes, at times but;
"Life's tough...It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
"Knowledge is of two kinds. We Know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it."- Samuel Johnson
I hope that Gnu/Linux Slackware will never become a hold your hand distribution! With PV's history, I am sure we will never have that situation. If I as LQ Slackware Member come across as terse then I suggest to you to thicken your skin and read the above quotes.

I/We are volunteers and provide this service on our time and wish to help others to use a wonderful Gnu/Linux that is noted as Slackware. Set your exceptions to be a little stronger as I can say for myself, I am what I am.
I am not PC nor ever will be!

Have fun & enjoy!
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  1. Old Comment
    Do we as Gnu/Linux Slackware users need to have a softer touch with interacting with members who fail to help themselves?
    No. What Slackware users need is a Slackware forum. That way they would not be constrained by LQ's commercial-friendly rules. At least, that is how I see things.
    Posted 06-24-2015 at 03:50 AM by Randicus Draco Albus Randicus Draco Albus is offline
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    I agree with you both.

    In ${DAYJOB} I routinely link the docs to users with a brief but concise summary of exactly what they need to know because, well, most of my customers are paying hard earned cash for support and as such have the right to demand I google a term for them (and that is a dramatized oversimplification, of course, as most of my customers are highly skilled IT Engineers and Developers). I used to assist on LQ because of my love of Linux and BSD, but I eventually grew weary of hand holding. There is zero justification for me to go out of my way to provide knowledge that I attained the hard way if the user isn't willing to meet me in the middle. Afterall, it isn't like every problem posted to the forum is immediately obvious and requires zero mental effort on my part.

    In short, I refuse to hand hold without pay. A well-written question that is clear and concise and shows that the user has done work to attempt to solve the problem I can justify expending effort to answer, however.
    Posted 06-24-2015 at 08:59 AM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
    Updated 06-24-2015 at 09:01 AM by rocket357
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    I am starting to approach LQ threads with a similar philosophy.

    1. If not enough information : ignore or refer to the manual
    2. If vague question : ignore
    3. If asking to be spoon fed information (knowingly or unknowingly ): flame
    4. If questions provide background, detailed information and the OP is making an effort: references and hints - but never the outright answer.

    I don't like to spoon feed or breed laziness by promoting "ask and you shall receive." I think that if you want to be spoon fed and be lazy, you should be paying for support and advice regarding you operating system. My knowledge was formed over years of research, education, and trial/error. Nothing personal, I just think my time is more valuable spent doing something constructive, fun, or profitable.
    Posted 06-30-2015 at 02:56 AM by mralk3 mralk3 is offline
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    Personally, I am not here to help anyone do anything other than learn to help themselves.
    I am (silently) of the response vector that they "reap what they sow".
    "They don't know that they don't know." ... until ... "How do I ask a smart question?"
    and even that is an offense to many.

    The Information that most seek is 'out there'.
    I am not the progenitor of anything resembling "original".
    I am a keyboard commando and this is my-kungfu.
    Rule Number One: Fix more than you break.
    Rinse, Lather, and Repeat.

    It's a matter of numbers getting people up to speed
    on what it takes to install, maintain and repair a Linux System.

    I read it on the 'net. Same as everybody here this day.

    Have you hugged your SysAdmin today?
    Posted 07-03-2015 at 10:42 AM by Habitual Habitual is offline
    Updated 07-03-2015 at 10:46 AM by Habitual
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    I help more than ask here.

    My philosophy.
    Free download.
    Gratis operating system.

    No one owes me anything on this planet earth.
    It is up to me to carry my own weight.
    If I get a snarky answer.
    I consider the source and grin and bear it because of my thick skin.

    Forum support is free, done out of caring, and is a volunteer labor of love. Done as brothers supporting brothers and sisters supporting sisters. On a journey to more knowledge.

    If you are a ingrate or poser. Bye. If you are a fellow traveler.
    Howdy. Nice to meet you. If I hurt your feelers online. Grow a pair.
    Real life must be a trial then, if personally perceived online insults appear to you inside your head.

    I don't insult people but my gruff manner can rub some sensitive egos raw.

    This gangster mentality of mine is best. Fsck the rest. I see enough of that in the real world at biker runs and other outdoor events.
    That mentality does not impress me in the real world. Same can be said for online folks.

    I like Gnu/Linux because I am not main stream. Some easy to do things are OK by me. Like Slackbuilds, Gslapt, and Sourcery. But dumbing way way down for main stream can make me run to BSD
    (which I am learning slowly) in a heart beat. Choices have not
    been limited to that status yet in Gnu/Linux. If one researches enough. Operating systems are seen as a tool by me to run on my computer. As I said once. "Durable is good. Free and durable is even better".

    Main stream is just one of those things I cannot stand.
    Just personal preference from a twisted personality.
    But a fun loving personality also.

    Must be why distro developers like, and appreciate me.
    Posted 07-05-2015 at 10:09 AM by rokytnji rokytnji is offline


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