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Don't click random links!

Posted 03-24-2018 at 05:06 AM by GazL
Updated 03-24-2018 at 05:11 AM by GazL

"Don't click random links". It's advice you see posted from time to time, but the entire Web is a collection of random links. You never know what you're going to get with any of it, until you get it!

"Turn off javascript" is advice I understand, "Don't click random links" might as well be "Don't use the web".

Unfortunately, "Turn off Javascript" is rapidly becoming "Can't use the web" thanks to idiot web developers whose abominable creations don't work without it. So, here we are, caught between "Don't use the web", and "Can't use the web".

I wonder... is it too late to go back to gopher?
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    There was a thread on 4chan the other day about going back to gopher. Screenshots of some sort of gopher-to-web server. Unsure if they were real or photoshopped.

    But yeah, I do a good amount of my browsing in links to get past stuff like that. One time I ran a live-cd in a VM just to access a particular site. A bit extreme but sometimes extreme is the only way.
    Posted 03-24-2018 at 05:25 PM by jr_bob_dobbs jr_bob_dobbs is offline
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    floodgap run a web proxy for gopher but mostly it's just for the sake of nostalgia. Most of the gopherspace it provides access to has fallen into a state of disrepair by now.

    I still have gophernicus installed here, which I use with lynx locally, but it's mostly just for nostalgia. However, it it does remind one how "clean" a curated systems such as gopher can feel, especially compared to the mess that is the modern javscript based web.

    I've always liked gopher, but I'm a less-is-more kind of guy.
    Posted 03-27-2018 at 11:04 AM by GazL GazL is offline
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    The concept of web exists for billions of years.

    The 'you never know' is not quite true, because things have been documented and there is ongoing effort to whitelist, blacklist, and map the web.
    Ignoring the maps and diving head first into the web, maybe a brave thing to do, but certainly not very wise.
    Posted 03-30-2018 at 12:43 AM by elcore elcore is offline
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    That gives too much power and puts too much faith in the map makers. The Internet was intended to provide peer to peer communication: something that people seem to forget in this age of centralised social media behemoths.

    It's all very well labelling parts of the map "Here be Dragons!", but that just scares people away from going there, and besides, Dragons MOVE!

    Anyway, my point is not about throwing caution to the wind but to draw attention to the emptiness of statements like "don't click on random links" which are akin to saying something like "To be safe, never go out your front door".

    The real advice should be "Secure your browser as best you can... use your noodle... and always keep one eye open for approaching Dragons."
    Posted 03-30-2018 at 04:08 AM by GazL GazL is offline
    Updated 03-30-2018 at 04:13 AM by GazL
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    So because majority of shark species are harmless and they move around all the time, the dude who put up the warning sign cannot be trusted?
    There must be some sort of reason not to walk into a clearly marked minefield as well, I just can't think of one right now.

    I can't tell whether or not you're being serious about this.
    Posted 03-30-2018 at 06:54 AM by elcore elcore is offline
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    There's a difference between "WARNING! This beach has been subject to shark attack, you really don't want to swim here." and "Don't swim in any ocean anywhere because... OMG SHARKS!"

    My objection is simply to blanket statements, which should have been clear from what I posted above. If you still can't see what I'm getting at then I guess we're just on a different wavelength.
    Posted 03-31-2018 at 03:58 AM by GazL GazL is offline
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    The example I wrote really has more to do with physical location than anything else.

    I'm well aware there's probably nothing out to get you in a pub, or this forum. But places exist where EVERYTHING is out to get you, like mainland AU.
    Random location is random, could be Irish pub, or Detroit suburbs. If someone says don't go random places, it does not mean don't go anywhere.
    Don't hit random links could mean don't hit links you know nothing about, because there's plenty of well documented sites which can cause you grief.
    Anyway, I meant no disrespect, I'm just incredibly bored.
    Posted 03-31-2018 at 05:17 AM by elcore elcore is offline
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    Hey, no worries. I do understand where you're coming from, and most my blog posts are driven by boredom too. I don't expect people to take them too seriously.
    Posted 03-31-2018 at 06:46 AM by GazL GazL is offline
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    Posted 03-31-2018 at 03:32 PM by kingbeowulf kingbeowulf is offline
  10. Old Comment
    Thanks. I wasn't aware of that interface to wikipedia. Unfortunately many of the articles themselves haven't been converted to plain text cleanly, some still contain elements of formatting meta-data that slip through an spoil the read, but it's a worthy attempt. The main page does clearly show how clean/tidy a gopher interface can be.
    Posted 04-01-2018 at 08:27 AM by GazL GazL is offline
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    Just got back into gopher a few months back. Pissed me off that FF, etc, dropped gopher:// support. There are plenty of other options. I do miss the days with my 14.4Kbps modem surfing BBS and gopher sites. Fun times - later upgrade to 56Knps was amazing! The modern web is shit mostly: block ads and scripts and you get a near blank page - not really what the CERN physicists had in mind.

    At least, like USENET, there are a few still keeping gopher alive.
    Posted 04-01-2018 at 02:04 PM by kingbeowulf kingbeowulf is offline


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