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Topics I am sick of.
Welcome to becoming mainstream.
Every "this is the year of the linux desktop" dream.
All I gotta say.
Ha, Ha, Ha. Careful what ya wish for.Posted 08-18-2014 at 09:46 AM by rokytnji -
Good-bye Debian
Hopefully systems like Slackware, Gentoo and Crux can stay away from it, but once systemd becomes entrenched to the point that applications are dependent on it, avoiding it may not be possible. Gnome for example. No systemd, no Gnome. If distros continue offering Gnome, they must use systemd. Other software must then also be systemd-compatible. I do not like following this line of reason to its ultimate conclusion.Posted 08-17-2014 at 05:11 PM by Randicus Draco Albus -
Topics I am sick of.
I definitely do not advocate competing with anyone. I disagree with enticing Windows users by offering Windows clones. Offer a good system. People who want to use something different and better will use it. Focusing on making it easy to use Windows applications with Linux is stupid. If someone is going to use Windows applications, the best course of action is to continue using Windows.
Visiting a few web sites and reading about those distributions is too quick and easy. It makes more sense to post a question and wait several days for people to post the information. At least it makes sense to those who want others to do their thinking for them.Posted 08-17-2014 at 05:04 PM by Randicus Draco Albus -
Good-bye Debian
Slackware should be a good safe haven for refugees fleeing from systemd. It would have to be an absolutely no-choice, inevitable situation for it to get adopted by Slackware. Alien Bob comments on that open letter in his blog, Alien Pastures:
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/Posted 08-17-2014 at 11:48 AM by brianL -
Topics I am sick of.
I much agree with you, linux organisations should present a united front in public and compete with their main competitor, Microsoft, on the grounds technical superiority and advanced features ,rather that on who shouts loudest.Posted 08-17-2014 at 09:36 AM by DarrenDrapkin -
Topics I am sick of.
I'd like to see an end to "Which Linux is best" questions. Have people lost the abilities to think for themselves, try, and choose?
As for dual-booting information, years ago when I was doing it, there was MASSES of information about how to do it out there on the internetwebthingy. UEFI/Secure Boot might have added some complications, but a websearch should be all that's required.Posted 08-17-2014 at 06:58 AM by brianL -
Good-bye Debian
Yes, Red Hat has done a wonderful job of promoting their shit. Apparently it is quite easy to brainwash people into believing it is up to non-believers to prove that the new thing is not sufficiently better than the old to warrant it replacing the old thing. I always thought the onus was on the believers to prove the new thing is so much better than the old that it should be adopted, but I am old-fashioned.
Unfortunately, the day may come when there will be no alternative. Of course, the destruction of Linux was inevitable. As Linux gained a little popularity, corporate interests got involved, made changes to "polish" the system and attract Windows users with a free (no money, who gives a shit about free software) so they could could make more money. Systemd is simply a symptom of the problem. The future of Linux is bleak. Soon Linux will consist of three locked-down corporate systems competing with Windows and Apple.Posted 08-16-2014 at 05:47 PM by Randicus Draco Albus -
Good-bye Debian
Aren't most Linux distros jumping on the systemd bandwagon, or worse, if they haven't yet, aren't they going to *have to*?Posted 08-16-2014 at 03:03 PM by rocket357 -
Good-bye Debian
That letter showed up yesterday in a an on-going discussion on the smaller Debian forum. Quite a few long-time Debian users are worried about the distribution's future.Posted 08-14-2014 at 06:02 PM by Randicus Draco Albus
Updated 08-15-2014 at 06:55 AM by Randicus Draco Albus -
Good-bye Debian
This showed up in the syndicated news forum this morning:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/12/459
He seems pretty upset too.Posted 08-14-2014 at 06:50 AM by GazL -
Good-bye Debian
Well, you're not the only one who has been considering leaving. I have been too, for either Slackware, LFS, or even another journey into the BSD universe... it's been years since I've touched a BSD.
Now I'm one of those who doesn't care what init system Debian goes with as long as it worked... unfortunately systemd doesn't just work. I have enough messing around with my system to do without worrying if the init system's gonna mess things up.Posted 08-13-2014 at 08:04 PM by goumba -
The decline of Linux boards.
Quote:So far I have not been banned or warned yet.Posted 07-22-2014 at 08:09 AM by Randicus Draco Albus -
The decline of Linux boards.
Well, I can kinda relate I guess. One of my responses on another fora
Quote:If members keep crying/whining/huffing and puffIng about wants and benefits and needs. I expect this to effect the people doing the heavy lifting here. That leads to burn outs. I left the gimme gimme stage when my nuts dropped.
If this gets me banned. So be it I guess.
like that be. Being a scooter tramp. It is kind of hard to keep ones mouth shut sometimes.
I am never a elitist. I remember being a clueless computer user myself.
I kinda know what you mean R.A.D.
I guess when I read things like
Quote:This approach is a contributing reason why Linux never gains popularity on the desktop. Just way too much geek mentality. "Oh, just open a terminal and run these 50 commands and everything will be fixed." I embrace no illusions that most non technical users will ever tolerate such answers.
Quote:am trying to be constructive here.
Some fancy talk does not fool this uneducated Scooter tramp.
Whether or not they become the demise or not. I don't really know.
Everybody wants mainstream. Well. Welcome to the benefits of everyone doing what you thought
was your own private Idaho.
All these young bucks camping out on your lawn. Kinda pisses you off, don't it?
My stab in the dark for this week. At least the OP is trying.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...7/#post5207320Posted 07-21-2014 at 05:59 PM by rokytnji
Updated 07-21-2014 at 06:07 PM by rokytnji -
The decline of Linux boards.
Quote:
At any rate, I fully agree with what you have to say, and it upsets me that the trendy, bad-ass operating system that Linux started off as has basically bloated out to being useless for minimalists such as myself. If NetBSD or FreeBSD go next, I still hold hope that Theo remains a big enough jerk to keep the mindless masses at bay.
Edit - puts a new spin on "zombie apocalypse", doesn't it? =)Posted 07-21-2014 at 05:53 PM by rocket357
Updated 07-21-2014 at 05:54 PM by rocket357 -
The decline of Linux boards.
Quote:Linux should be more out there.
Quote:Your opinion of the elite being "1337" is still considerate, thats why we have archlinux :P
I am not an advocate of elite users. Since the freedom and power Linux gives users over the computer requires learning at least the basics, it is wrong to abandon the belief users should be expected to adapt. Catering to clueless people who do not want to learn does not make Linux stronger. That and the corporate influence responsible will be the destruction of Linux, and perhaps BSD as well.Posted 07-21-2014 at 05:11 PM by Randicus Draco Albus
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The decline of Linux boards.
The main goals of the boards were to clearly smash windows. the casual windows user doesn't need to read the manual or dig deep into forums. Just get the problem solved, thats all that matters. Now that windows xp died(the cult still lives ), distros are having the quote "replace that xp". LXLE, q4os and a lot of the good distros are doing this. Linux should be more out there.
And in my personal opinion, once customization of the UI starts then the manual reading comes. Crunchbang is proof of that. Hacking into that openbox distro had been the turning point in my adventures with tux.
Your opinion of the elite being "1337" is still considerate, thats why we have archlinux :PPosted 07-21-2014 at 12:26 AM by t1nm@n -
Stability and cutting edge. Mutually conflicting, but we want it!
I ran Ubuntu-testing for several cycles as my production OS. I am now on Sid.
Going to be hard, not impossible by any means, to find more cutting edge than those.
Anyone, expecting stability is simply nuts.
What you wrote is not, to me, a rant. It is simply the truth that people want to have thier cake and eat it too. They really need to get a life.
If you except Sid as being "cutting edge" then I actually do have cutting edge with stability. I have Wheezy installed on the other internal drive. Along with Squeeze.
See, it can be done.Posted 01-14-2014 at 04:42 AM by widget -
The decline of Linux boards.
True. How does one say no to one's mother?Posted 12-23-2013 at 11:28 PM by Randicus Draco Albus -
The decline of Linux boards.
@Knightron Oh well, moms always think they should get special dispensation.Posted 12-23-2013 at 09:17 AM by vmccord -
The decline of Linux boards.
Quote:I know you participate regularly (or at least used to) over at one of the Debian forums, i think the atmosphere over there is the complete opposite to what you have described.Posted 12-22-2013 at 09:35 PM by Randicus Draco Albus