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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    Back in the Quake 1/2/3 MP days I was either offline or stuck on a very poor dial up connection. I wasn't online until some time around 2000 and did not get off dial up until around 2005. Even then it was a very unreliable DSL connection which dropped out a lot. So in most cases I was just not getting anywhere with MP due to serious lag. Also the MP players scene for most games tended to be dominated by leet speaking teenagers with attitude problems.

    I have heard that it's worse still these days with all the new fangled ultra realistic games and the omnipresent steam and "social network" crap involved.

    Besides my reflexes just aren't what they were for first person shooters like Doom/Quake...

    I only played the first tomb raider - I agree that it was a very original classic.
    Posted Yesterday at 11:23 AM by cynwulf cynwulf is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    I have no idea about newer games. I've played Doom3 and Quake 4 and those are probably the newest games I've played. I bought them cheaply and because I could run them on Linux. It's been a good few years since I've played those, no longer have the time, nor the inclination. Same applies to UT and UT2K4.
    Quake 1 I used to play online at the FvF server, which is still up, but nobody goes there anymore. Whenever I log in I'm the only one there - the same guy's running it though, apparently.

    It seems that only the three newest Tomb Raider games [from the franchise reboot] are available on Linux. The first one is excellent but I don't have the hardware for the newer ones. At some point I'll upgrade.

    Portal 1 and 2 are quite old now and unless you have an ancient machine you will be able to run them. I thoroughly, unequivocally recommend both seeing as they're ingenious and different, something that very rarely gets done effectively in gaming.
    Posted Yesterday at 05:27 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    Originally Posted by Lysander666 View Comment
    Quake II was a big disappointment for me. Gone were the monsters and the dark Gothic environments - and with them, the atmosphere. I suppose id were going for the more industrialised look and feel that was becoming so popular in the mid '90s. I don't think I actually finished the game. Quake III I never played because I'm not into deathmatch and Quake 4 is just a Doom 3 clone, albeit a passable one. I play custom Q1 maps through the Quaddicted website, the Q1 mapping community is quite active.
    Quake 2 grew on me, but isn't a patch on Quake.

    I bought Quake 3 despite the multiplayer focus, played against bots quite a lot and online and over LAN. Eventually though it just wasn't for me.
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    I remember then Doom first came out in 1993 it was rumoured to be the most violent game ever. Which it probably was. "Being alone in a seemingly endless hell" is a dystopia which few other games have replicated successfully. Devil Daggers tries but it's not the same at all. Though not particularly dark, some of the Tomb Raider titles and Portal 1/2 create an atmosphere of solitude very effectively.
    I have no idea about newer games. I've played Doom3 and Quake 4 and those are probably the newest games I've played. I bought them cheaply and because I could run them on Linux. It's been a good few years since I've played those, no longer have the time, nor the inclination. Same applies to UT and UT2K4.

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    I can't even bring myself to run Ubuntu because of the names. They've gone beyond creative, beyond wacky and into the realm of the idiotic. It's embarrassing now.
    If only the code names were the only problem with that and indeed Debian...

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    Originally Posted by Lysander666 View Comment
    I did wonder whether they were there to subtly promote Pixar since Bruce Perens worked for them. I haven't seen any of the Toy Story films but the Debian releases did make me curious to watch them [not that I did].
    Good point, I'd forgotten that.

    I've seen some of the first and second ones, never seen one all the way through - I'm not a fan, but I will say that they hark back to a time when these things were at least original if nothing else.
    Posted 02-14-2019 at 06:08 PM by cynwulf cynwulf is offline
    Updated 02-14-2019 at 06:10 PM by cynwulf
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    Originally Posted by cynwulf
    I don't tend to think of genres - quake was "quake" for me and that's about it. Quake 2 completely lacked the atmosphere. Quake 3 was based on it, but in no way recaptured it being a bit too "colourful". By that time ID were more into making game engines to licence out than making games.
    Quake II was a big disappointment for me. Gone were the monsters and the dark Gothic environments - and with them, the atmosphere. I suppose id were going for the more industrialised look and feel that was becoming so popular in the mid '90s. I don't think I actually finished the game. Quake III I never played because I'm not into deathmatch and Quake 4 is just a Doom 3 clone, albeit a passable one. I play custom Q1 maps through the Quaddicted website, the Q1 mapping community is quite active.

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    Originally Posted by cynwulf
    I go back to the days of DOOM on MSDOS (also Quake on that same OS). Despite it's primitive graphics, sprites, etc, that game gave the sense of being utterly alone and lost in a seemingly endless hell.
    I remember then Doom first came out in 1993 it was rumoured to be the most violent game ever. Which it probably was. "Being alone in a seemingly endless hell" is a dystopia which few other games have replicated successfully. Devil Daggers tries but it's not the same at all. Though not particularly dark, some of the Tomb Raider titles and Portal 1/2 create an atmosphere of solitude very effectively.

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    Originally Posted by cynwulf
    The stupid code names for the "popular" distributions are in the realm of millennials and coffee shop dwellers, it's lowest common denominator marketing spiel, that started with 'buntu back in '05 or '06...
    I can't even bring myself to run Ubuntu because of the names. They've gone beyond creative, beyond wacky and into the realm of the idiotic. It's embarrassing now.

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    Originally Posted by cynwulf
    Debian's are silly, but pre-date all that by many years and were not conceived for marketing purposes.
    I did wonder whether they were there to subtly promote Pixar since Bruce Perens worked for them. I haven't seen any of the Toy Story films but the Debian releases did make me curious to watch them [not that I did].

    EDIT: updated the main post.
    Posted 02-14-2019 at 06:47 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
    Updated 02-14-2019 at 06:52 AM by Lysander666
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    I don't tend to think of genres - quake was "quake" for me and that's about it. Quake 2 completely lacked the atmosphere. Quake 3 was based on it, but in no way recaptured it being a bit too "colourful". By that time ID were more into making game engines to licence out than making games.

    I go back to the days of DOOM on MSDOS (also Quake on that same OS). Despite it's primitive graphics, sprites, etc, that game gave the sense of being utterly alone and lost in a seemingly endless hell.

    I doubt Pat Volkerding will change much with regards to Slackware. The distribution is very conservative after all.

    The stupid code names for the "popular" distributions are in the realm of millennials and coffee shop dwellers, it's lowest common denominator marketing spiel, that started with 'buntu back in '05 or '06...

    Debian's are silly, but pre-date all that by many years and were not conceived for marketing purposes.
    Posted 02-14-2019 at 04:57 AM by cynwulf cynwulf is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    I had no idea about all the Lovecraft inspiration in Quake until years later. Was very atmospheric and eerie. (still know almost zero about Lovecraft).
    Weirdly enough I have read that some people don't think of Quake 1 as a horror game. Zombies, ogres, pentagrams, ghosts [not 'ghasts' as such but scrags as you pointed out], demons, crypts, castles, Lovecraftian references. It's all there. Not to mention the skinned human faces that bedeck a lot of the exit portals.

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    Originally Posted by cynwulf View Comment
    I'd go with your "code names", much better than the Debian toy story crap or the ridiculous "masturbating monkey" nonsense of 'buntu... but that's all assuming code names are needed at all.
    There are no indications that PV has an interest in introducing code names to the Slackware releases but he could do a lot worse than the Lovecraft ones. The Debian ones are hit and miss, while the Ubuntu ones seem to be getting steadily worse. First prize, however, goes to Fedora and "Beefy Miracle". No wonder they stopped them soon after that.
    Posted 02-11-2019 at 09:18 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    I'm sure that "Ghasts" were some kind of ghoulish (acid spewing?) creature in the Baldur's Gate games?

    I had no idea about all the Lovecraft inspiration in Quake until years later. Was very atmospheric and eerie. (still know almost zero about Lovecraft).

    I actually still have my disc... was playing it on OpenBSD earlier last year in fact.

    I'd go with your "code names", much better than the Debian toy story crap or the ridiculous "masturbating monkey" nonsense of 'buntu... but that's all assuming code names are needed at all.
    Posted 02-11-2019 at 08:54 AM by cynwulf cynwulf is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    That would be the "Scrag".
    Good God, how the hell could I get that wrong? After the hundreds of hours I've spent on that game, as well. Glad to see you know it well enough to correct the reference.
    Posted 02-11-2019 at 08:24 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    12.0 Ghast [dark-dwelling, keen-sensed humanoids with kangaroo-like legs that live in the vaults of Zin. They are aggressive carnivores. Ghasts are also ghost-like acid-spitting creatures in Quake 1, whereas The Vaults of Zin is a map within the game. First appearance in The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, 1926].
    That would be the "Scrag".
    Posted 02-11-2019 at 07:59 AM by cynwulf cynwulf is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    Originally Posted by Tonus View Comment
    The real problem would be : how would you pronounce these names?!?
    And when hearing it : how would you spell?!?
    This is a valid point. "Tsathoggua" hardly rolls off the tongue.
    Posted 01-12-2019 at 07:27 PM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    The real problem would be : how would you pronounce these names?!?
    And when hearing it : how would you spell?!?
    Posted 01-12-2019 at 06:56 PM by Tonus Tonus is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    . . . and sometimes as the "Creeping Crawling Chaos."
    Posted 12-22-2018 at 10:24 PM by frankbell frankbell is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    I for one would not like to install a distro version named "Nyarlathotep."
    And therein lies the issue with naming conventions. What one person likes, another may not. I'm with you in principle, since some names have passively deterred me from installing releases in the past.

    I think Lovecraft chose the name [as many] for its sound. Etymologically, "-hotep" is the Egyptian suffix for 'peace' [the events of the story take place in Egypt]. I don't think this bears any relation to personality traits though, since the character is also known as The Crawling Chaos.
    Posted 12-22-2018 at 06:22 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    I for one would not like to install a distro version named "Nyarlathotep."
    Posted 12-21-2018 at 10:34 PM by frankbell frankbell is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    Originally Posted by jsbjsb001 View Comment
    I think I'll look you up when I can actually write a serious program in C, for possible names for them.
    Haha, please do!

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    You must do a lot of reading (outside of LQ of course) ...
    It's research rather than reading, if that makes sense. A lot of the information is already out there, it was just a matter of tying names to releases and elaborating on identities. Still, I think it serves as a nice intro to Lovecraft, and it was an education for me too. I'm sure that if Slackware ever did decide to adopt nomenclature at some point, it would be something suitably inventive.
    Posted 12-21-2018 at 09:21 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    I think I'll look you up when I can actually write a serious program in C, for possible names for them.

    You put a lot of thought into a non-serious proposal.

    You must do a lot of reading (outside of LQ of course) ...
    Posted 12-20-2018 at 01:19 PM by jsbjsb001 jsbjsb001 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

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    No "Shoggoth"?
    Well, not yet anyway!

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    p.s. back on topic, I'd always thought Slackware was orginally named for the Church Of The Sub-Genius, but I could be wrong.
    Yes indeed, after the tenet of 'slack' from the Church.
    Posted 12-20-2018 at 08:00 AM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
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    Slackware and the Cthulhu Mythos

    No "Shoggoth"?

    btw, (almost?) all of Lovecraft's works are readable online here http://www.hplovecraft.com/

    p.s. back on topic, I'd always thought Slackware was orginally named for the Church Of The Sub-Genius, but I could be wrong.
    Posted 12-19-2018 at 06:41 PM by jr_bob_dobbs jr_bob_dobbs is offline
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    Posted 12-12-2018 at 06:35 AM by ruario ruario is offline
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    Persistent naming with multiple internal drives in Slackware

    rkelsen - I really appreciate your comment. It's good to be here: it's taken some work, but it's been worth it and I thoroughly value the experience.
    Posted 08-27-2018 at 05:30 PM by Lysander666 Lysander666 is offline
    Updated 08-27-2018 at 05:35 PM by Lysander666

  



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