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Old 05-06-2019, 05:00 PM   #1
TimSmithTheWise
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Hello, I have recently installed Bedrock Linux via a hijack on my Arch install, and I must say, I'm very impressed. However Ubuntu's version of apt is broken (Debian's apt is not). Cancelling dpkg during it running will obviously call for sudo dpkg --configure -a to be run. However this proves fruitless when ran from either the Arch stratum or the Ubuntu stratum, so if at any time I must cancel dpkg I find that stratum crippled.

Also as a suggestion I would like it if the Ubuntu and Debian strata provided by brl fetch gave bootable systems, as once brl has installed the strata I must manually install init systems, which is inconvenient and forces me to construct much of the init systems myself, which I am yet to do so in a manner that gives me a working DM.

Overall though I must say that my outlook on this project is exceedingly positive, and I look forward to seeing a 1.0 release very much. Please keep up the good work!

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Old 05-06-2019, 06:14 PM   #2
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Hello, I have recently installed Bedrock Linux via a hijack on my Arch install, and I must say, I'm very impressed.


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However Ubuntu's version of apt is broken (Debian's apt is not). Cancelling dpkg during it running will obviously call for sudo dpkg --configure -a to be run. However this proves fruitless when ran from either the Arch stratum or the Ubuntu stratum, so if at any time I must cancel dpkg I find that stratum crippled.
Ubuntu's apt works for me. Can you give me more details, such as the exact error messages you are getting and steps to reproduce the issue? Ideally the reproduction steps will be from a fresh `brl fetch` and include the version of Ubuntu fetched.

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Also as a suggestion I would like it if the Ubuntu and Debian strata provided by brl fetch gave bootable systems, as once brl has installed the strata I must manually install init systems, which is inconvenient and forces me to construct much of the init systems myself
Currently, `brl fetch` tries to grab the smallest section of the distro it can which is internally consistent and is sufficient to use its package manager to build up whatever is desired. Part of the issue with grabbing any more than that is other users who do not want those things would then have to deal with removing them.

I'm strongly considering eventually adding a feature to `brl fetch` to also grab common collections of packages during the fetch, such as an init or desktop environment. However, this is a relatively low priority and is unlikely to be realized any time soon.

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I am yet to do so in a manner that gives me a working DM.
It should be as simple as installing the right package. For unity, I think it would be ubuntu-unity-desktop. It appears to include everything it needs as dependencies, including a display manager that comes with systemd configuration to launch on boot. If there's something else going on, that might be indicative of an issue. The fact you're also having problems with apt might be related.

That having been said, I haven't actually tried this any what recently. If/when I get the chance, I'll try to do so and see if it ends up I'm missing something, which is not unlikely.

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Overall though I must say that my outlook on this project is exceedingly positive, and I look forward to seeing a 1.0 release very much. Please keep up the good work!
Happy to hear it, and will do.
 
Old 05-06-2019, 09:38 PM   #3
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Ubuntu's apt also works for me on Ubuntu MATE.

Could you describe the problem in more detail and post any error messages you receive when running apt, being sure to surround any terminal output with "code" tags which become available when you click the "Go Advanced" button beneath the compose post window.
 
  


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