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linus72 02-26-2010 02:47 PM

Want to install Arch for first time; hints and suggesstions please...?
 
OK

last time I tried installing Arch
it was a mess and total failure
my I'm sure

Now, I know alot more about linux and so wanna try a install
via net-install cd.

questions

1) arch has a installer similar to debian/slackware yes or no?
text or gui doesn't matter

2) what desktops are available for arch?

3) is arch similar to slackware wherein I can build from source or use pacman?

Please note I have no windows on any PC here
just linux and dont wanna mess that up
I have a 15gb partition ready and hope Arch can fit in there?
tahnks

repo 02-26-2010 03:23 PM

I would suggest to take a look at
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/..._Install_Guide
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/...indow_managers

pixellany 02-26-2010 03:25 PM

The install guide on the Arch wiki is very good. The wiki also has the answers to many of your questions.

A few things that come to mind:
  • Always install the "develop" option, in addition to "base".
  • Know your internet connection parameters ahead of time
  • Do the initial internet setup in /etc/rc.conf
  • Start with a wired connection
  • After the initial install, do a full system upgrade before adding any SW
  • Set up the mirrors using the "rankmirrors" command. (See the wiki under mirrors)
  • When installing X, remember that you need to separately install input and video drivers.
  • Install XFCE first, even if you're eventually going to install another WM or DE. XFCE is small, and you can start it directly without a login manager or any configuring. This will give you a GUI while you are sorting out how to configure various things.
  • Once things are working, install WICD and disable the previous network setup. WICD outshines any connection manager I have ever seen.

reed9 02-26-2010 05:00 PM

The Beginner's Guide is a little easier to follow than the Official Installation Guide, in my opinion.

Quote:

1) arch has a installer similar to debian/slackware yes or no?
text or gui doesn't matter

2) what desktops are available for arch?

3) is arch similar to slackware wherein I can build from source or use pacman?
1) Yes. It's text based.

2) All the major DE's and many window managers. Which did you have in mind?

3) Yes. Read this and this.

~sHyLoCk~ 02-26-2010 09:03 PM

Well you can also have a look at ArchBang!
EDIT: It's RC1 and meant for testing only! :)

cantab 03-01-2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linus72 (Post 3878142)
OK

last time I tried installing Arch
it was a mess and total failure
my I'm sure

Now, I know alot more about linux and so wanna try a install
via net-install cd.

questions

1) arch has a installer similar to debian/slackware yes or no?
text or gui doesn't matter

Probably more similar to slackware.

Quote:

2) what desktops are available for arch?
Pretty much all of them. I use LXDE, a truly lightweight desktop environment. (I do not regard XFCE as lightweight.)

As for installing it - have the documentation on hand and work patiently through it. Arch isn't a fire-and-forget install. It will help if you have another machine that you can check things on the internet with.

Alexvader 03-02-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

2) what desktops are available for arch?
Gnu Screen in console... LMFAO :D

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=55618

http://polishlinux.org/wp-content/up...ole2_thumb.png

Yu wont get a wm lighter, faster, or cooler than this... :)

im_a_geek@arch:~/work


BRGDS

Alex

linus72 03-02-2010 09:31 AM

Crazy cool dude
I gotta get around to installing one it
what should i do?

install reg arch or Archbang?
maybe both?

I just finished making Absolute live and it was intensive:)
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Syste...SB-55041.shtml

is it hard to make a Arch livecd?

reed9 03-02-2010 09:34 AM

Quote:

install reg arch or Archbang?
maybe both?
Depends if you want a configured openbox desktop out of the box.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Building_a_Live_CD

Alexvader 03-02-2010 09:36 AM

Hi

I think ArchBang is a liveCD... although i do not know if it has an installer ( last version is 2.0... )

I use regular Arch and Slackware never tried AcrhBang nor Chakra... it is in my TODO... :)

BRGDS

Alex

linus72 03-02-2010 09:44 AM

yeah
i'm downloading the archbang live 2.0.0 rc1 now
http://pdg86.wordpress.com/2010/02/2...ang-2-00-beta/

now I gotta find 2 partitions
1 for reg arch net-install
1 for archbang
:banghead:

~sHyLoCk~ 03-02-2010 09:56 AM

I shouldn't have suggested "ArchBang" just like that,instead I should have requested if you could help us by testing it. My bad! ArchBang is now going through heavy testing and we have received a huge response not only from Arch community but from ubuntu,crunchbang,etc. We even made it in LXer.com frontpage! :D I'm still not done hacking the AIF [ /arch/setup ] completely! There have been various bug reports but nothing deadly to nuke your system as I left the partitioning and disk functions untouched. Please make any bug-report in Arch forum thread or if you don't have an account there and don't want to create one either, just email me! :)

linus72 03-02-2010 10:01 AM

no doubt shylock

all my PC's are testbeds so its cool as long as my other installs (20+) are safe:)
I break a couple systems each day so I also learn how to fix'em too
LOL

actually Fedora 12 is the only distro that actually "hurt" my PC's
weird beepng noises, freezing screens,whirring motors, etc
so, no Fedora for me anymore

linus72 03-02-2010 10:42 AM

hey the archbang iso can be dd'd to usb or no?

Alexvader 03-02-2010 10:42 AM

Arch, Slackware, Crux or BLFS... these are the most reliable ones... although CRUX and BLFS are not for everyone, IMHO...

in BLFS yu do not have yum install internet-explorer :D or apt-get install defrag.exe :D ROFL


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