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Old 04-21-2010, 01:50 PM   #1
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Small Innocent rant about Arch ... :)


Now that I caught your attention Archers, ...let me explain myself before getting flamed... :


This is not really a rant, nor a troll post... this is the statement of a problem that I found with Arch, and the recognition of my ignorance as how to circumvent it or avoid it...

... I still consider Arch/Slackware my distros of choice...


So... this is really, me asking for help...


Thing is...

Arch is a rolling release... meaning that from time to time, I run pacman -Syu... and everything runs fine... most of the time...


Last time i did this, I lost my wireless, no big fuss, rebuilt the module, installed it, depmod... and fine...


But some apps I built and installed, either from AUR, or my own packages, got broken... library versions changed, so there I was, rebuilding all the stuff...

Can this be avoided, or must i simply never run Pacman -Syu, risking to have to rebuild lots of stuff...?


BRGDS

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Old 04-21-2010, 02:09 PM   #2
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I'm not sure alexvader
I have archbang rc2 installed on both PC's and have had 0 issues with anything
except oblogout, which I got rid of in lieu of hag-exit-fluxbox.
I have installed many packages, and some from aur, and no issues yet.
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:11 PM   #3
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"Innocent Rant"---is that an oxymoron??....

seriously, I feel your pain.

If I understand things correctly, anything from AUR might as well be from Pluto---in the sense that you are now responsible for the dependencies. Thus, after upgrading from the official repos, you **might** have to re-install anything NOT from the official repos.

Example: before starting to use the Arch-supplied version of nvidia, I was getting quite used to every kernel update breaking it.

Arch--like any other distro--does indeed have its little moments.....
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:45 PM   #4
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I was thinking about the AUR issue the other day when I had a number of applications break due to a library upgrade. There's probably some elegant solution or quick script one could write to check AUR packages against recent upgrades, but honestly, major libraries don't change that often and I don't find it particularly burdensome to rebuild packages when they do.

I don't and wouldn't expect the Arch developers to do something about it, certainly. As pixellany said, the AUR is unsupported and community driven. It's up to the user to know what's on their system and implement their own solution accordingly.
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:15 PM   #5
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Try:

yaourt -Syu
 
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:19 PM   #6
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Try:

yaourt -Syu
If the release in the AUR hasn't changed, none of the AUR helpers will rebuild against the new library.

Anyway, clyde or bauerbill are way better than yaourt.
 
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:06 AM   #7
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I run an Arch box using KDEmod3.5 and a lot of AUR packages as well. Running such a heavily modified Arch system has me running into dependency issues all the time running 'pacman -Syu'. Still, I take backup images before each upgrade, and try to keep everything running smoothly; I don't use Arch to keep a stagnant system. Usually when a library upgrade breaks funtionality of certain (mostly KDE3.5) apps, you can install the older library side by side from AUR to restore functionality.
 
  


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