[SOLVED] permissions maybe??

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 05:00 PM

Yeah so after my install of Arch I became bored and started using Ubuntu again. I use my laptop for programming only. Ubunutu makes development super easy!

My other hard drive crapped out on me and I have decided to keep my Arch install on my other HD and install Ubuntu on a USB. So now I am going to build up my Arch box some more.

So, I have a question for the guru's here. I cannot use my terminal while I am logged in as a regular user. Whenever I try to click on the terminal icon, it just won't open.

I assume this is a permission issue? What could the issue/problem be? Thoughts and/or advice?

Slackyman · 06-29-2012, 06:13 PM

Maybe the execute flags?
Are you ruunning a GUI terminal like gnome-terminal or konsole?
If it's so try to check if you have permissions to run gnome-terminal or konsole with "ls -l" or maybe try to check the logs!

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slackyman

Maybe the execute flags?
Are you ruunning a GUI terminal like gnome-terminal or konsole?
If it's so try to check if you have permissions to run gnome-terminal or konsole with "ls -l" or maybe try to check the logs!

Yes, I am running a UI via Gnome-Terminal. I logged into a tty console and logged in as regular user and found the gnome-terminal residing in /usr/bin/gnome-terminal. It had all of the proper permissions set. Oddly had an execute bit set for the other group. I removed it. I even opened the launcher options for the terminal on my cairo dock and added the gnome-term path to the command to run on click argument box. ...And nothing.

Let me scroll through the logs and see if I can find something.

Slackyman · 06-29-2012, 07:04 PM

Try xtern and check the messages you fet running gnome-terminal from it!

TobiSGD · 06-29-2012, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amboxer21

It had all of the proper permissions set. Oddly had an execute bit set for the other group. I removed it.

Programs in /usr/bin are owned by root. If you remove the execute flag for "other" you remove the permissions for your user to execute it. Add the execute permissions for "other" and it will work again.

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slackyman

Try xtern and check the messages you fet running gnome-terminal from it!

I found this in my auth logs

Code:

Jun 29 17:09:11 localhost dbus[399]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.30" (uid=1000 pid=702 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.5" (uid=0 pid=497 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")

Ill try xterm now. BRB.

I tried to run the gnome-shell from xterm and received this message:

Code:

Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD

Programs in /usr/bin are owned by root. If you remove the execute flag for "other" you remove the permissions for your user to execute it. Add the execute permissions for "other" and it will work again.

I thought that all i needed were the root and user group bits, not the other. But i will change it back. Even still the problem existed before I changed the other user execution bits.

TobiSGD · 06-29-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by amboxer21

I thought that all i needed were the root and user group bits, not the other.

It is quite logical: The programs in /usr/bin are owned by the user root and the group root. Since your user is not root and should not be a member of the group root, the user can only use what is allowed to be done by "Other".
Anyways, restore the permission and try to run it from xterm, as Slackyman suggested.

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD

It is quite logical: The programs in /usr/bin are owned by the user root and the group root. Since your user is not root and should not be a member of the group root, the user can only use what is allowed to be done by "Other".
Anyways, restore the permission and try to run it from xterm, as Slackyman suggested.

Oh, I didn't know that. Sorry and thanks for informing me! So, I changed the permissions back and I am still having the same problem(running from xterm). Still receiving the same error messages.

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slackyman

Try xtern and check the messages you fet running gnome-terminal from it!

Good idea!

TobiSGD · 06-29-2012, 07:39 PM

You shouldn't run gnome-shell, it is the GUI you use, not a terminal emulator. Try it with gnome-terminal (or something similar, I don't have Gnome installed, so I can't look for the correct name).

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD

You shouldn't run gnome-shell, it is the GUI you use, not a terminal emulator. Try it with gnome-terminal (or something similar, I don't have Gnome installed, so I can't look for the correct name).

Makes sense! I tried running gnome-terminal from xterm and received this errer:

Code:

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ERROR:terminal-app.c:1449:terminal_app_init: assertion failed: (app->default_profile_id != NULL)

I have no idea what that means.

UPDATE:
I removed and reinstalled the gnome-terminal and it fixed the issue. Wish I wold have done that initially instead of wasting yall time! I am sorry and really appreciate the help! Thank you guys!

TobiSGD · 06-29-2012, 07:58 PM

There seems to be a problem with the configuration file. Move the configuration file (~/.gconf/gnome-terminal) to a different place, the log out and in again and test if the terminal starts.

amboxer21 · 06-29-2012, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD

There seems to be a problem with the configuration file. Move the configuration file (~/.gconf/gnome-terminal) to a different place, the log out and in again and test if the terminal starts.

I dont think the moving of the conf file will make a difference now since the re-installation fixed the issue.

What concerns me is why would this problem exist anyway? Since my install, I have not touched anything relevant to the terminal. Wish I could have tried your suggestion before I removed and reinstalled. Sorry Tobi! Thanks again!

BTW, the file wasn't here --> ~/.gconf/gnome-terminal it was here --> ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/

Slackyman · 06-29-2012, 09:08 PM

Just want to say that's one of the WHY I don't like gnome: gconf-things are messy!
And I don't like Ubuntu (neither Debian) since they "customize" everything! I search for a cfg file where IT SHOULD BE, but it's in another position and maybe with another name, I search for a binary and it's in the wrong place!
Messy = wrong.