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Old 07-08-2020, 06:22 PM   #1
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Mouse moves upper left part of screen; hard to control


Backstory:

I have been using Linux Mint since June 10th, when I first installed my first nVME drive, and ever since.

The problem is, LM has an audio issue, (that as far as I can tell,) must be fixed every time you start Linux Mint Cinn.

So, unable to find a permanent solution, I've decided to switch back to MX Linux - I was using that in 2019 with no problems.

The problem:

Today, when I loaded the "Live CD" (19.2) of Mx Linux, the mouse immediately moved from where it was located, and made a bee-line for the upper-left corner of the screen. I even gave my nVME drive, (that previously held Linux Mint,) a new partition table. That, unfortunately, didn't fix the issue.

I cruised the web looking for an answer, and it turns out that a/ someone had a GTX1070. I on the other hand have the GTX 1080 Ti. They were told to download the "Nvidia 367 or 370" only.

But seeing as I have the GTX 1080 Ti, what should I do?

Oh, by the way, in my other OS, I have no issue with the mouse; although its happened before to me, I just can't remember the solution.

Interestingly enough, that was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent me in search of another OS...I was surprised to see that a variation on the theme could happen in Linux.

Thanks in advance,

Pen guin
 
Old 07-09-2020, 04:24 AM   #2
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Backstory:

I have been using Linux Mint since June 10th, when I first installed my first nVME drive, and ever since.

The problem is, LM has an audio issue, (that as far as I can tell,) must be fixed every time you start Linux Mint Cinn.

So, unable to find a permanent solution, I've decided to switch back to MX Linux - I was using that in 2019 with no problems.

The problem:

Today, when I loaded the "Live CD" (19.2) of Mx Linux, the mouse immediately moved from where it was located, and made a bee-line for the upper-left corner of the screen. I even gave my nVME drive, (that previously held Linux Mint,) a new partition table. That, unfortunately, didn't fix the issue.

I cruised the web looking for an answer, and it turns out that a/ someone had a GTX1070. I on the other hand have the GTX 1080 Ti. They were told to download the "Nvidia 367 or 370" only.

But seeing as I have the GTX 1080 Ti, what should I do?

Oh, by the way, in my other OS, I have no issue with the mouse; although its happened before to me, I just can't remember the solution.

Interestingly enough, that was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent me in search of another OS...I was surprised to see that a variation on the theme could happen in Linux.

Thanks in advance,

Pen guin
So it is solved now?
I guess not; which distro are we talking about right now, and does your pointer still make a beeline to the top-left corner?
Did you do soem basic troubleshooting?
e.g.: different mouse or no muse at all - still happening?
Any way to influence the behaviour?
Any weird applications in Autostart?
Anything in the journal or other logs or dmesg?
Try a little harder, this is not your first question here.
I see you have an issue, but how can we help if you don't give us anything to work with.
 
Old 07-09-2020, 04:51 AM   #3
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I had a similar problem with a ten-year-old laptop. In my case, the trackpoint was the culprit (hardware failure). To confirm that it's a hardware failure, you could go to the BIOS and see if you can use the mouse there (if your BIOS supports mice to begin with).

Thanks to Linuxquestions, I could disable the trackpoint: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...nt-4175674399/, which solved the problem.
 
Old 07-09-2020, 03:05 PM   #4
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So it is solved now?
I guess not;...
Would I have posted a question here if it was resolved? (No, I wouldn't have.) And if I did find a resolution to an issue, I would have posted the answer, that solved the problem for me so that it could help others.

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...which distro are we talking about right now, and does your pointer still make a beeline to the top-left corner?
Apologies for the confusion. From my original post...(with a few minor additions for clarification)

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So, unable to find a permanent solution, I've decided to switch back to MX Linux - I was using that in 2019 with no problems.

The problem:

Today, 7/7/2020 when I loaded the "Live CD" (19.2) of Mx Linux, the mouse immediately moved from where it was located, and made a bee-line for the upper-left corner of the screen. I even gave my nVME drive, (that previously held Linux Mint,) a new partition table. i.e. it has one big partition of 931.51. (unallocated) I had to remove MX Linux from the drive, because if I couldn't control the mouse, it's (MX Linux) really totally unusable.
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Did you do soem basic troubleshooting?
Let's put it this way: that's the reason I didn't build my own computer. I think the experience would be a blast; but when an issue like this crops up, at least I have someone to call.

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Any weird applications in Autostart?
Being so new to Linux, I honestly wouldn't know what would qualify as a "weird application." And where is "Autostart" anyway?

*EDIT* That said,I couldn't select the text to paste back here, with a mouse fighting me for control every step of the way; and usually I just let it have its way, because it is so difficult and frustrating trying to achieve any degree of accuracy essentially "tug of rope." All this is going on in a "Live CD" environment. *END EDIT*


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Anything in the journal or other logs or dmesg?
Even if I could find it via an internet search, I'd be hard pressed to tell you what they mean due to my lack of experience in Linux, and then apply that knowledge to my own situation.

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Try a little harder, this is not your first question here.
I see you have an issue, but how can we help if you don't give us anything to work with.
Just so you and the LQ Community knows: I research my questions/situations first. Always. Why? I could (potentially) solve the issue in hours. Tracking down an answer takes that long. I've been in other forums where my topic has gone unanswered for days. At least this way, I'm taking a pro-active stance, which makes me feel better, because I'm "in control," vs. waiting on a forum post, that may or may not be answered. It's only when my research fails, then do I come here and post a question.

So, believe me when I tell you, it not for a lack of trying. (to solve the issue on my own)

If you ever need more information, I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have...

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Old 07-10-2020, 04:24 PM   #5
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Would I have posted a question here if it was resolved? (No, I wouldn't have.) And if I did find a resolution to an issue, I would have posted the answer, that solved the problem for me so that it could help others.



Apologies for the confusion. From my original post...(with a few minor additions for clarification)




Let's put it this way: that's the reason I didn't build my own computer. I think the experience would be a blast; but when an issue like this crops up, at least I have someone to call.



Being so new to Linux, I honestly wouldn't know what would qualify as a "weird application." And where is "Autostart" anyway?

*EDIT* That said,I couldn't select the text to paste back here, with a mouse fighting me for control every step of the way; and usually I just let it have its way, because it is so difficult and frustrating trying to achieve any degree of accuracy essentially "tug of rope." All this is going on in a "Live CD" environment. *END EDIT*




Even if I could find it via an internet search, I'd be hard pressed to tell you what they mean due to my lack of experience in Linux, and then apply that knowledge to my own situation.



Just so you and the LQ Community knows: I research my questions/situations first. Always. Why? I could (potentially) solve the issue in hours. Tracking down an answer takes that long. I've been in other forums where my topic has gone unanswered for days. At least this way, I'm taking a pro-active stance, which makes me feel better, because I'm "in control," vs. waiting on a forum post, that may or may not be answered. It's only when my research fails, then do I come here and post a question.

So, believe me when I tell you, it not for a lack of trying. (to solve the issue on my own)

If you ever need more information, I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have...
I can see you're more interested in arguing than solving your problem with our help.
Good Bye.
 
Old 07-10-2020, 04:57 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Pen guin View Post
Backstory:

I have been using Linux Mint since June 10th, when I first installed my first nVME drive, and ever since.

The problem is, LM has an audio issue, (that as far as I can tell,) must be fixed every time you start Linux Mint Cinn.

So, unable to find a permanent solution, I've decided to switch back to MX Linux - I was using that in 2019 with no problems.
Have you tried issuing:
Code:
$ sudo hwinfo --mouse
$ dmesg | grep mouse
and compared what those commands think you have for a mouse versus what your desktop software settings are for your mouse? I'm not a Mint, MX, or Cinnamon user so I cannot tell if what you're experiencing is a hardware problem (likely not since you state that it's working fine for other distributions) of an environmental problem, i.e., the desktop took a shot at automagically setting your mouse type and blew it. That would be my first check. If you have multiple desktop environments installed, I'd try logging out and, upon re-logging back in, select a different one, and see if the problem is repeatable with a different desktop environment. (Cinnamon and I have never gotten along so I won't be much help at all if it comes down to a problem with that DE.)

Good luck...
 
Old 07-10-2020, 05:25 PM   #7
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It should be noted that:

Also of interest, (in case I haven't mentioned this before,) although there are anomalies re: my mouse's cursor) under the MX Linux OS, as you might expect, no such behavior has been exhibited when running my Windows 10 OS. (build 1903)

USB THUMB DRIVE (in question): Kingston Digital DataTraveler SE9 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (DTSE9H/32GBZET) has been tested in more than one USB port. Despite my efforts, no change in the cursor's behavior, has been noted.

Monitor: ASUS VS248H-P 24"

Graphics Card EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1080ti

M.2:WD_Black SN750 1TB NVMe Internal Gaming SSD with Heatsink - Gen3 PCIe, M.2 2280, 3D NAND - WDS100T3XHC 1 partition UNALLOCATED (i.e. no Linux system installed.)

RAM: Corsair Vengance RGB 16GB 8 x 2 (Out of Production)

PSU: Corsair CX750

I did run "dmesg' in the terminal, but despite my best efforts, "CTRL-A" and "CTRL-C" did not work for me, despite reading on the web that they would, in a Linux environment.

If you've never experienced this, you are lucky; because it's like trying to apply an opposite force to a mouse moving at warp speed. Add to that the lag time, and all you really have to click on a link, (or icon,) is literally a nanosecond; if it recognizes the click. I have yet to be so lucky.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to post them. I'll be happy to answer them.
 
Old 07-11-2020, 09:06 AM   #8
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This morning, 7/11/2020, I inserted a San Disk USB thinking it was an earlier version of MX Linux judging from the modification date, an (4/xx/2020) of the files...and the name of the file (mx64)

It wasn't MX Linux at all, but Linux Mint 20. But, here's the thing...for whatever reason, I have singular control of the mouse cursor again. (albeit on an entirely different distribution.)
 
  


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