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etcetera 01-20-2021 08:29 AM

Minimal browser for 32-bit AntiX
 
For an older i386 32-bit machine with 1GB of RAM, in .deb

Currently have Firefox but it's very slow.

could not install or run:
Palemoon, Falkon. Brave doesn't even have a 32 bit option. Chromium had some issues.
Downloaded Vivaldi but crashed upon install, about corrupt checksum.

Got Opera installed - impressively fast and nice but getting an error about certificate chain with every single web page, could not resolve it after an hour of looking at it. No way to turn off in options. So that's not an option.

Maybe midori or Iridium, do these have 32-bit?

jamison20000e 01-20-2021 08:56 AM

What desktop environment?
These work well:
Code:

links
links2
lynx
w3m

https://antixlinux.com/category/releases/ :scratch:
For my oldest, I use sid e.g: https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-2-ba...sos-available/
(more works for me) I'm on Debian tho but either way if you don't like can "downgrade:" https://wiki.debian.org/SystemDowngrade

have fun! :hattip:

shruggy 01-20-2021 08:57 AM

Midori definitely has a 32-bit version as it is in Debian Buster. Check the repo. Iridium devs provide only 64-bit binaries, but hey, it's open source: you can build a 32-bit version yourself.

etcetera 01-20-2021 08:58 AM

I thought lynx was a text-based browser? At least at was at one point in the 90's.

etcetera 01-20-2021 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shruggy (Post 6209891)
Midori definitely has a 32-bit version as it is in Debian Buster. Check the repo. Iridium devs provide only 64-bit binaries, but hey, it's open source: you can build a 32-bit version yourself.

This is helpful, will try these next. I need something that verifybly works well on a 17 year old machine that's obsolete through and through. Upgraded from 256MB of RAM it came with to 1 GB.
A neighbor bought it new and it sat, NIB, unopened for 17 years. it came with Win XP that would hardly run, with swapping every second.
Swapped the 2032 lithim battery, installed AntiX and it has some life in it, makes a fabulous gift for a 10 year old who never had a computer.
I am not going to build my 32-bit version.

hazel 01-20-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6209892)
I thought lynx was a text-based browser? At least at was at one point in the 90's.

Not sure about lynx, but links can run in both text and graphics mode if built to run that way. I find graphical links very nice and fast, but it's no use on sites that use a lot of javascript.

jamison20000e 01-20-2021 09:28 AM

My IBM T20( from a thrift store) has a text based netinst of sid, why that list popped to mind. Here is more on them:
https://www.tecmint.com/command-line...file-in-linux/

Lightweight desktops also work well on my old lap-weight, Ratpoison is my favorite.

anticapitalista 01-20-2021 11:56 AM

You probably need to install the non-sse2 Palemoon version.

http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster/po...emoon-nonsse2/

etcetera 01-20-2021 12:00 PM

Thank you very much, will definitely try it tonight.

ondoho 01-20-2021 12:48 PM

Duplicate of https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ne-4175688945/

etcetera 01-21-2021 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shruggy (Post 6209891)
Midori definitely has a 32-bit version

Tried to find it to no avail. Link?

as it is in Debian Buster.



Link here as well?


Check the repo. Iridium devs provide only 64-bit binaries, but hey, it's open source: you can build a 32-bit version yourself.

No luck thus far

etcetera 01-21-2021 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazel (Post 6209899)
Not sure about lynx, but links can run in both text and graphics mode if built to run that way. I find graphical links very nice and fast, but it's no use on sites that use a lot of javascript.

Link to download links? This would be very helpful, as these are not obvious and sometimes not easy at all to find, especially on a semi-functional computer.

etcetera 01-21-2021 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anticapitalista (Post 6209962)
You probably need to install the non-sse2 Palemoon version.

http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster/po...emoon-nonsse2/

Installed correctly and generating the very same Certificate Chain error as v12 I already have running. With every single web site and with no way to turn it off. What a dumb design. Too bad as it seems to run very fast otherwise.

etcetera 01-21-2021 12:26 AM

I reinstalled opera and it's a very browser but crashes constantly. Other ideas?

jamison20000e 01-21-2021 12:57 AM

What* desktop or window manager are you running* may want to "shop" around?

a netinst built up on my T20 is best, Antix looks like they now call core.iso e.g: antiX-19.3_386-core.iso - 2020-10-14 13:25 457M

start small, only add what you need for best results.

IMHO: (opinions best when yours) there's distros built on Debian, and Debian, but I haven't distro hopped for many years so what do I know...

for me sid because I like a working pull out faucet sprayers to the sandbox, in my metaphorical kitchen :p

ondoho 01-21-2021 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6210159)
Link to download links?

No. That's the Windows way of installing software.
On a Linux distro, you search your package manager.
On a Debian-based distro, that would be
Code:

apt search links
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you can just
Code:

apt update && apt install links
edit: and please do NOT power post.
Your last 4 consecutive posts could have been one post only. There's an edit button, you know.

etcetera 01-21-2021 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6210175)
No. That's the Windows way of installing software.
On a Linux distro, you search your package manager.
On a Debian-based distro, that would be
Code:

apt search links
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you can just
Code:

apt update && apt install links
edit: and please do NOT power post.
Your last 4 consecutive posts could have been one post only. There's an edit button, you know.

No, thank you. I break my posts into separate logical units much like procedures in a shell script. A large posts with multiple thoughts is harder to process based on my experience online.

etcetera 01-21-2021 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamison20000e (Post 6210173)
What* desktop or window manager are you running* may want to "shop" around?

a netinst built up on my T20 is best, Antix looks like they now call core.iso e.g: antiX-19.3_386-core.iso - 2020-10-14 13:25 457M

start small, only add what you need for best results.

IMHO: (opinions best when yours) there's distros built on Debian, and Debian, but I haven't distro hopped for many years so what do I know...

for me sid because I like a working pull out faucet sprayers to the sandbox, in my metaphorical kitchen :p


Not sure. I installed the default latest-greatest Antix a month ago with whatever default window manager it came with.
I inherited an old desktop and trying to revive it. I knew it would be a challenge and AntiX is my attempt number 4 or 5.
The machine is not for me, I have something much faster multibooting Fedora and Ubuntu.

etcetera 01-21-2021 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamison20000e (Post 6209905)
My IBM T20( from a thrift store) has a text based netinst of sid, why that list popped to mind. Here is more on them:
https://www.tecmint.com/command-line...file-in-linux/

Lightweight desktops also work well on my old lap-weight, Ratpoison is my favorite.

This is interesting but I don't need a text-based browser, rather a minimalist full size one (with Graphical user interface).

jamison20000e 01-21-2021 01:43 AM

Try:
Code:

echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
my T420 it gives KDE( not usually too lightweight) and if I run Virtualbox where I've installed a lighter set of software with Debian-sid it is:
Code:

echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
LXQt


etcetera 01-22-2021 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamison20000e (Post 6209890)
What desktop environment?
These work well:[code]links
links2

links is a text only program. I need a full GUI version, how does one install a gui version, or does it even have one?

ondoho 01-23-2021 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6210844)
links is a text only program. I need a full GUI version

surf

rokytnji 01-23-2021 03:56 AM

Not supported Edit: Lost the Kazahakase links in my post. No matter. It is a dead browser also.

uzbl


https://github.com/uzbl/uzbl

Back when I used to run these on my IBM T23 in AntiX 8.5. They were supported then.
But like everything else in the 32 bit world.
Most folks lost interest.

links2 and Dillo already come in AntiX Full iso.

Code:

$ apt search links2
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
links/buster 2.21.1-1.0antix1 amd64
  Web browser running in text mode

links2/buster,now 2.21.1-1.0antix1 amd64 [installed]
  Web browser running in both graphics and text mode
<snip>
harry@biker:~
$ apt search dillo
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
<snip>
dillo/stable,now 3.0.5-5 amd64 [installed]
  Small and fast web browser
<snip>

So no need to install those
If Anti's link don't help ya. I don't know what to advise for 2021.

hazel 01-23-2021 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etcetera (Post 6210844)
links is a text only program. I need a full GUI version, how does one install a gui version, or does it even have one?

Links has a graphical mode which is very nice to use. It doesn't do javascript but it handles simple graphics well and loads pages extremely fast.

How you install it depends on the distro. AFAIR Debian distros ship both a text and a gui version with the latter being called links2. AntiX should have it already.

If it isn't provided as is, it's easy to build from source. You just have to configure it with --enable-graphics.

jamison20000e 01-23-2021 05:38 AM

Dido

shruggy 01-23-2021 06:03 AM

@jamison20000e. You mean Dillo? I guess you were thinking "that—whatisitsname—that sounds like dildo, but not quite"? ;)

TorC 01-23-2021 07:44 AM

@etcetera --
if rokytnji or anticapitalista cannot help you, I'm not sure who can.
Meanwhile, have you looked at NetSurf? Didn't like it, myself.

ondoho 01-23-2021 10:55 AM

Somebody else already made the joke.

jamison20000e 01-23-2021 06:44 PM

https://www.urbandictionary.com
We are repeating ourselves... ;)

jamison20000e 01-23-2021 06:50 PM

Ironically tho so it's okay... :D

Add: I see now I grew up with a the slang version of dido? :)

leclerc78 02-14-2021 08:06 PM

Bionic Puppy has 32-bit version, Palemoon is the default browser - should work with 1G RAM.

jamison20000e 02-15-2021 12:06 AM

This, to me, is another one of those opinion threads... find all browsers and try them. Opinions best when yours.

Older versions may work better, just cross reference, :study: &c,,, to see if you can still update for security?
(As if. A nonstop process! ;) If you run a device pay or be the admin! https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1207296)

You could also run those older versions and do your own security. :scratch: I have friends and family who run windows, with no script blockers and no virus protection because they go nowhere that needs them...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=run+old+br...=b&t=hc&ia=web

Even better, 32-bit: https://www.knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix861-en.html IMHO?

Have fun! :hattip:


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