Regarding the first part of the quote: I am totally fine with a nonfunctional government, their functioning is part of the problem. KISS should be a constitutional requirement/amendment.

[back on topic] I am a fan of WM's especially fluxbox, i3 is fun to play with at times, however, LXQt is starting to grow on me, it's a nice balance of a minimally functioning DE. [off topic] Kind of how a government should be. [/again]

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I like KDE because of their actives. For about my various works I set up a different activities. For each activity I customize my work environment with a different background to easily recognize it, 1-2 translucent folders with file or shortcuts. Additionally I like the Notes KDE offers and I have normally one on each desktop for quick notes.

In Cinnamon this is not possible. Each Workspace looks the same and cannot be configured with different backgrounds and translucent folders. Notes, I have no tested yet. This is why i don't like to go with Cinnamon.

However I cannot get in LM18.3KDE and in kubuntu 18.? Japanese writing running. Thus KDE gets also a big minus now from me.

Cinnamon vs KDE - for me it depends on what they come up with and how they provide me with what I need. (See above)

I decided now to use the MATE DE. Setting up Japanese writing is a 5-min-task. This is a key thing for me. I will see what the DE looks like.

I had actually forgotten the site exists... so I was glad to get the "Community Bulletin" with the invite to participate in the polls. Perhaps such a bulletin should be sent more often!

IIRC, it is sent out every month.

Huh. Searched my inbox and this was the first one I've received. Not in spam either. Musta been getting eaten by the Space Moose.

I voted in most of the polls. Even with such a large userbase -- the overall voter turnout for all of the polls is abysmally low. I wonder how many users are active on LQ - that is - post at least weekly?

That most certainly doesn't fit me or my position, I don't hate anyone.

One might argue though, that the government here is be totally nonfunctional.

Oh, and just for the record: Russia had that "none of these candidates" field in their elections -- ahmm, until the powers that be deceided, that the outcome might be too revealing. Our candidates never even dared trying this...

Well, this was the point I was making before; just because you voted in most of the polls, that doesn't mean everyone else has to, or is going to. I didn't vote in a number of the polls, because I don't use any of the distros as a desktop system for the "Desktop Distribution of the Year" poll. I didn't vote in the "Universal Packaging Format of the Year" poll either, because I don't use Appimage, Flatpak or Snap packages. I didn't vote in a number of the other polls either, for the same reasons, and yet I'd consider myself to be an "active member" here.

It's also worth remembering in addition to what's already been said above, that there is no obligation on any member here to participate in any poll here. So your post could come across as "demanding" that just because someone is a member of LQ, they are somehow obligated to participate in the MCA's just because you like them. When the reality is that it's up to each member to decide for themselves as to whether or not they do or don't vote in the MCA's.

The bottom line: if you want to suggest some ideas on how to encourage more members to participate, then that's fine, but "demanding" others participate isn't going to go down well.

I never demanded that LQ members vote in the MCA polls. You missed my point -- you see with so many members - even if most that voted only voted on a poll or two - that's still a tiny fraction of overall users that voted.

I never said you did demand, I said your post could come across that way. I was speaking in general when I said "but "demanding" others participate isn't going to go down well.". As that's exactly why I explicitly said before that, "it could come across that way".

It seems you missed my point, so one more time; if members don't use any of the choices in a given poll, then they are hardly likely to vote in those given polls, even if some others do vote in those given polls anyway. Once again, I didn't vote in all of the MCA polls myself. I just picked the ones I could vote in, as I'm not just going to vote for the sake of it if I don't use any of the given choices.

You posted 'demanding' here.

I got your point.

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Anyway, we can agree to disagree.

Yes I did, and I explained before I was speaking in general once again.



Ok, but it didn't seem that way from your reply.

We can agree to disagree, that's fine. Then perhaps it might be helpful for you to say why you think it is that the turn out was "abysmally low". Care to enlighten us?

It did not appear like that to me from your initial post.

I have no idea why the vote numbers are so low, nor on how to improve the situation. You?

Most forums see a poster-participation rate of only 1%, and a poll participation rate much lower than that. So I'd say LQ is doing about average in that regard, and actually pretty good for polls, compared even to some very busy forums (millions of users). But it doesn't look like much if you're not aware how low the average participation rate typically is for forums of all sorts.

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Fair enough.

Probably for the same reasons I've already mentioned. How to improve? Well, if we are dealing with human beings, then I'm not sure there is any good answer to that, other than addressing the reasons (and related/whatever other reasons) already mentioned.