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View Poll Results: Desktop Distribution of the Year
Ubuntu 547 35.38%
Fedora 153 9.90%
Debian 158 10.22%
openSuse 120 7.76%
Slackware 192 12.42%
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 0.65%
Mandriva 74 4.79%
Gentoo 58 3.75%
MEPIS 29 1.88%
Linux Mint 48 3.10%
Arch 75 4.85%
PClinuxOS 40 2.59%
Zenwalk 24 1.55%
VectorLinux 12 0.78%
Freespire 0 0%
gOS 6 0.39%
Voters: 1546. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-26-2009, 12:33 AM   #271
mdsmedia
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Originally Posted by opensuse4life View Post
Let's! Maybe there's a world record to be set...



You mean "because it rocks!" isn't a valid answer? :lol:

One can speculate if there was a poll for desktop distro of the year followed by one for second choice desktop distro of the year, the second choice poll would have at LEAST 60% less voters. Why? over half the voters either haven't tried anything else, or have tried 1 or 2 others before the one they have now and had bad experiences with them.
I agree with you. Most wouldn't have used (and I mean USED) more than one distro, but I probably wouldn't have voted because my 2nd favorite distro (probably) isn't in the list.

I use Ubuntu but have Mandriva on my 2nd computer. Having used Ubuntu (Gnome) for 3 years, Mandriva (KDE) just isn't my cup of tea.

I tried a Sabayon LiveCD and really liked it, but when I installed it and started to play around with it it was buggy.

I've been trying to install Zenwalk on a 2000-2001 vintage Celeron with 256MB of RAM, the first attempt I must have mucked up the partitioning because it claimed the partition I was installing to was full, then after a week I tried it again, somehow found the partitioning tool far more intuitive than at first attempt, but had a corrupted ISO (apparently).

I've d/l'd a new ISO and will give it another go.

Then to decide what to put on PC no.2 (replacing Mandriva). Maybe I'll bite the bullet and give Fedora a go, maybe even have a go at a Debian or Arch. Get my hands dirty on something that's not as easy to use as Ubuntu or Fedora.
 
Old 02-27-2009, 11:03 PM   #272
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Greetings from Guelph. Here is why I choose a distro.
1. Ease of installation. Give me a partitioning tool that is intuitive and does not feel like I am trying to land a lunar module.
2. Give me a choice of where to install the bootloader.
3. Give me a choice of desktops, from KDE and Gnome to XFCE and other lightweight choices.
4. Have a caring community that encourages the newcomer and also speaks the language of the Linux guru.
5. Be deep enough to allow serious tinkering on the command line and elegant enough to allow firing it up, checking the news on-line and writing a letter.
For the above, I choose OpenSuse, especially 11.1 which is running on my EEEPC 701 99.9% out of the box.
Just my 2 cents. Others will, for similar reasons, choose Ubuntu or Fedora or Mint etc...
 
Old 02-28-2009, 01:41 AM   #273
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Originally Posted by freshmeadow View Post
Greetings from Guelph. Here is why I choose a distro.
1. Ease of installation. Give me a partitioning tool that is intuitive and does not feel like I am trying to land a lunar module.
2. Give me a choice of where to install the bootloader.
3. Give me a choice of desktops, from KDE and Gnome to XFCE and other lightweight choices.
4. Have a caring community that encourages the newcomer and also speaks the language of the Linux guru.
5. Be deep enough to allow serious tinkering on the command line and elegant enough to allow firing it up, checking the news on-line and writing a letter.
For the above, I choose OpenSuse, especially 11.1 which is running on my EEEPC 701 99.9% out of the box.
Just my 2 cents. Others will, for similar reasons, choose Ubuntu or Fedora or Mint etc...
Well stated, and I agree.
 
Old 02-28-2009, 07:58 AM   #274
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Originally Posted by freshmeadow View Post
Greetings from Guelph. Here is why I choose a distro.
1. Ease of installation. Give me a partitioning tool that is intuitive and does not feel like I am trying to land a lunar module.
2. Give me a choice of where to install the bootloader.
3. Give me a choice of desktops, from KDE and Gnome to XFCE and other lightweight choices.
4. Have a caring community that encourages the newcomer and also speaks the language of the Linux guru.
5. Be deep enough to allow serious tinkering on the command line and elegant enough to allow firing it up, checking the news on-line and writing a letter.
For the above, I choose OpenSuse, especially 11.1 which is running on my EEEPC 701 99.9% out of the box.
Just my 2 cents. Others will, for similar reasons, choose Ubuntu or Fedora or Mint etc...
yes, you are correct !
I faced problem when installing Fedora, and ubuntu . At partition manager it's takes more time to understand . But in case of openSUSE, it is easy to paritioning and bootloader options easy to understand..etc etc..

Even openSUSE official sitehttp://software.opensuse.org is providing several softwares for the user's of openSUSE 11.1 , openSUSE 11.0 ....SLES, FEDORA, RHEL, CENTOS, MANDRIVA, UBUNTU ... we can direclty install softwares.
 
Old 03-02-2009, 11:25 AM   #275
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The bulk of openSUSE's funding comes from the distributor of the commercial Suse Linux Enterprise, Novell. I can remember them being around back when CPU speed was measured in MegaHertz and still only 2 digits. Few people can say they've never heard of Netware! A lot of openSUSE wouldn't be there without Novell's brilliant software engineers contributing to the project.
 
Old 03-04-2009, 11:39 PM   #276
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Talking Ubuntu vs Fedora

First I would like to say this is a rather small universe to make a definitive judgment. That said there appears to be a big difference in votes between Ubuntu and Fedora.

Currently I am using an old (Feisty 7.04) version of Ubuntu. I liked it but the applications are not the latest versions. Besides Ubuntu does not update versions of applications in the repository after release. Fedora does.

I have a live CD for the latest fedora and Ubuntu. Fedora recognized my nvidia card and gave me the proper resolution and also installed the correct printer with all of the features working. With ubuntu I need to find the video driver myself and am not sure if all of the features of my printer (duplex etc) will work. I had limited use of the Canon and full use of HP under Feisty.

My reason for this post is I am curious as why Ubuntu has such a tremendous lead over Fedora. I think both are very good and will need to decide which to upgrade to in May when new releases of both will come out.

I know there is a reviews section but still would like to know why the votes came out this way.

Thanks in advance
 
Old 03-05-2009, 12:53 AM   #277
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Hi Measekite.

There are 3 reasons I think.

1) Ubuntu is more entry level. Something like Windows, less configurable and powerful but simpler to use. Fedora is more bleeding edge.
2) Ubuntu has LTS, that is long term support. That is you can use some specific versions along 3 years or so without the need to upgrade the OS. With Fedora the support for any version is shorter.
3) Not all users try a handful distribution, only try 1 or 2 and stay with the first that works for them.

For my purpouses I prefer Fedora and specially F10 looks great but understand others prefer Ubuntu.

HTH
 
Old 03-05-2009, 05:15 AM   #278
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Yes, I think those are the three reasons. I followed a path before Ubuntu existed - Knoppix LiveCD (problems with setting up my adsl modem firmware); Kanotix LiveCD - everything could be got to work so I installed it - I then converted the kanotix install to sidux and have been there ever since - it just works so why go for anything else. I can understand why people go for Ubuntu as it gets the publicity, more people use it so more people vote for it . . . having little experience of anyting else. There is to reason to believe that it is the best desktop installation. I install sidux on other PCs and it's a doddle to have a fully tuned system up and running in less than 20 minutes with about 3 minutes for the actual install. From my experience I don't like ubuntu, I'm happy with sidux which is way ahead in what I want to achieve on my desktop . . . but there wasn't an option to vote for it!
 
Old 03-05-2009, 06:40 AM   #279
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Well, I'm certainly NOT going to vote. I've only ever installed one distro of Linux and it's on top of the pile at the moment. Does it belong there? Is it the best?

How the heck would I know? I installed it because there was steam coming out of my ears, I was breathing fire, and my eyes were tossing poison darts at the "Blue Screen of Death" on my monitor! The name came from a friend, via email, it stuck in my head. The local CyberCafe became the download place and their WindowsXP and Nero created my first LiveCD.

I've broken it many times! Reinstalled, it only to break it again. See, I have this unquenchable desire to get under the hood and look around, and sooner or later there is a terminal command that ends in "Oops!" or OH! That's not good!.

But enough, The reason I'm here, is because Google sent me here when I asked a question. That question involves installing a second distro to test, the answer was here in LQ, there is still almost 10 months to go for 2009. I suspect I'll have a "few" distros under my belt by then and will come back and vote... maybe ... see, the distro I'm about to test isn't on the list.

So I'm about to go from the distro with the best marketing to an unknown (as far as the list goes). Catch you all later.

If your disto works for you, does what you need, don't fix it, break it, and learn how to put it back together!

have a nice day.
Bruce

Last edited by Sgt Canuck; 03-05-2009 at 06:42 AM.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 11:24 AM   #280
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Fedora Support

Quote:
Originally Posted by ppesci View Post
Hi Measekite.

There are 3 reasons I think.

1) Ubuntu is more entry level. Something like Windows, less configurable and powerful but simpler to use. Fedora is more bleeding edge.
2) Ubuntu has LTS, that is long term support. That is you can use some specific versions along 3 years or so without the need to upgrade the OS. With Fedora the support for any version is shorter.
3) Not all users try a handful distribution, only try 1 or 2 and stay with the first that works for them.

For my purpouses I prefer Fedora and specially F10 looks great but understand others prefer Ubuntu.

HTH
Do you find this the best forum for fedora support. I seen some others and they appear to be akin to a cult or an old boys club.

What I have noticed here is that both the fedora and ubuntu specific community forums are much smaller but the more general forums appear to be where most of the posts are.

What has been your experience and I am also interested in the experience of other readers of this thread.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 03:18 PM   #281
Ron G
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Simple answer

Quote:
Originally Posted by measekite View Post
First I would like to say this is a rather small universe to make a definitive judgment. That said there appears to be a big difference in votes between Ubuntu and Fedora.

Currently I am using an old (Feisty 7.04) version of Ubuntu. I liked it but the applications are not the latest versions. Besides Ubuntu does not update versions of applications in the repository after release. Fedora does.

I have a live CD for the latest fedora and Ubuntu. Fedora recognized my nvidia card and gave me the proper resolution and also installed the correct printer with all of the features working. With ubuntu I need to find the video driver myself and am not sure if all of the features of my printer (duplex etc) will work. I had limited use of the Canon and full use of HP under Feisty.

My reason for this post is I am curious as why Ubuntu has such a tremendous lead over Fedora. I think both are very good and will need to decide which to upgrade to in May when new releases of both will come out.

I know there is a reviews section but still would like to know why the votes came out this way.

Thanks in advance
Different strokes for different folks.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 03:22 PM   #282
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hummm

Quote:
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Well, I'm certainly NOT going to vote. I've only ever installed one distro of Linux and it's on top of the pile at the moment. Does it belong there? Is it the best?

How the heck would I know? I installed it because there was steam coming out of my ears, I was breathing fire, and my eyes were tossing poison darts at the "Blue Screen of Death" on my monitor! The name came from a friend, via email, it stuck in my head. The local CyberCafe became the download place and their WindowsXP and Nero created my first LiveCD.

I've broken it many times! Reinstalled, it only to break it again. See, I have this unquenchable desire to get under the hood and look around, and sooner or later there is a terminal command that ends in "Oops!" or OH! That's not good!.

But enough, The reason I'm here, is because Google sent me here when I asked a question. That question involves installing a second distro to test, the answer was here in LQ, there is still almost 10 months to go for 2009. I suspect I'll have a "few" distros under my belt by then and will come back and vote... maybe ... see, the distro I'm about to test isn't on the list.

So I'm about to go from the distro with the best marketing to an unknown (as far as the list goes). Catch you all later.

If your disto works for you, does what you need, don't fix it, break it, and learn how to put it back together!

have a nice day.
Bruce
It states Xubuntu 8.10 in your profile to the left, so I assume that's what your running. Seems to be a decent distro if you like xfce.
 
Old 03-05-2009, 10:10 PM   #283
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I installed it because there was steam coming out of my ears, I was breathing fire, and my eyes were tossing poison darts at the "Blue Screen of Death" on my monitor!
I feel your pain- That's exactly why I tried Linux. I love Kubuntu, but then again, I'm quite comfortable with whatever works and can be configured to my taste.

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I've broken it many times! Reinstalled, it only to break it again. See, I have this unquenchable desire to get under the hood and look around, and sooner or later there is a terminal command that ends in "Oops!" or OH! That's not good!.
Perhaps Slackware would be a better choice. I've never tried it, but it's my understanding that it's perfect for those like you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Canuck View Post
But enough, The reason I'm here, is because Google sent me here when I asked a question. That question involves installing a second distro to test, the answer was here in LQ, there is still almost 10 months to go for 2009. I suspect I'll have a "few" distros under my belt by then and will come back and vote... maybe ... see, the distro I'm about to test isn't on the list.
What distro are you planning to try? Use it for a while and write a review on it. Maybe it will make the list next year.

Cheers
 
Old 03-06-2009, 05:54 AM   #284
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Quote:
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It states Xubuntu 8.10 in your profile to the left, so I assume that's what your running. Seems to be a decent distro if you like xfce.
Yes, it does, I started with Ubuntu, then with upgrades it started running slow on my old P-III so went to Xubuntu. It's still a *buntu distribution, and I stayed with Xfce with this AMD64. It grew on me, it does a lot more than I "need" and it faster.

Have a nice day.
Bruce
 
Old 03-06-2009, 06:27 AM   #285
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I feel your pain- That's exactly why I tried Linux. I love Kubuntu, but then again, I'm quite comfortable with whatever works and can be configured to my taste.
Hi dragonslayer, (love the name)

Haven't tried KDE. My old PC would not have run it (well) and now I'm hooked on Xfce. But I hear that KDE (any distro?) is highly configurable, probably more so that other flavours; GNOME, Xfce etc.

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Perhaps Slackware would be a better choice. I've never tried it, but it's my understanding that it's perfect for those like you.
"Those like me!" I think you misunderstood me. My breaking things is because I'm a "Taurus", stubborn and "I can do that!" which eventually leads to; "Oops!, Guess not!" Now having said that I've also learned that for as many times as I've broken Linux, or upgrades, and security releases have broken Linux. I have not lost one single byte of information since I have started running it. The key secret is: Put your /home on a separate partition!. I can't possibly stress that more to new people coming to Linux. That fact alone has allowed me to be a bit more daring with what I do. Something I would never have done with Windows.

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Originally Posted by dragonslayer48dx View Post
What distro are you planning to try? Use it for a while and write a review on it. Maybe it will make the list next year.

Cheers
Ahhhhhh, here's where we get back closer to the topic. It took me 6 attempts at getting it downloaded (ISP problems). But I finally got it, had a few problems installing it. I read where it wasn't the friendliest installable Live-CD version out there, that that the command line is a must in certain cases. But with a little digging, a couple of questions and persistence I got it in and running Wednesday. It's based on Debian Lenny and defaults to Xfce although there is a Gnome install on the same CD.

Oh the name: Dreamlinux.

First impression: VERY VERY NICE! And I have every intention of doing a write up on it. Especially a little HowTo for the install. It's really quite simple once you know how it works, but "different" than *buntu installs, or maybe other distros as well, so people "think" it is hard. However, like I said, with a little planning and knowledge it is actually "easier" than *buntu installs. And my opinion, a faster install.

Have a nice day.
Bruce
 
  


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