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Old 04-12-2023, 05:25 PM   #31
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Yes and no: BSD runs on quite some corporate infrastructure and FreeBSD, to name the most obvious example, has been trying to make advances to the Linux crowd for quite a few years now.
You seem confused : ironically the GPL gave corporations perverse incentives to highjack Linux compared to the BSD, ISC and MIT licenses. Redhat mostly highjacked Linux with systemd , for example, and apple and netflix did not highjack FreeBSD but I am a OpenBSD person, mostly, and OpenBSD is definitely not corrupted by corporations.

This is not the 1990s anymore it is absolutely clear that Linux sold out to Redhat, Google, and IBM etc..

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Old 04-13-2023, 08:41 AM   #32
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...and FreeBSD, to name the most obvious example, has been trying to make advances to the Linux crowd for quite a few years now.
Not sure about that - FreeBSD is often said to be "server focused", in that a base installation does not include a working X server as standard. Installing display managers, windows managers, desktops, etc, then requires some work on the part of the user. Support for laptop hardware, in particular, power management, can be lacking.

When it comes to financial support, it's here: https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-donors/donors/

You will see donations from some corporate backers who have found the project or parts of it to be of use (as is the case with OpenBSD). I didn't see Apple, but only looked at the last few years...

The FreeBSD foundation board of directors does not consist of this constant rotation of corporate reps from "Big Tech", as is the case with the Linux kernel.

So in my view any criticism of FreeBSD's corporate donors is just cheap trolling (usually from the typical misinformed GNU zealots) and misses the "elephant in the living room" of Linux kernel's ownership by the "Big Tech" cartel - and the influence/ownership of "Big Tech" in other Linux centric projects such as X.org, wayland, systemd, gnome, etc.

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Old 04-13-2023, 01:43 PM   #33
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How corporate money can derail pure open source was sadly evident when android derailed openmoko and the neo freerunners.

At least there's librelinux and efforts made to deblob the kernel.

I used openbsd on a powerpc g4 xserve, mainly to build a firewall with pf, to protect a stack of xserves that were running slackintosh (Slackware did have an unoffical port supporting powerpc); but when those xserves were replaced with x64 poweredges, I learned iptables, and phased out the openbsd for simplicity of just running one os, slackware, on the entire stack.

Clearly Slackware is swimming against the current and it took longer to get a stable 15.0 while trying to preserve its bsd style roots, and PV might be exhausted trying to stay upwind of all those system.d.roppings building up under the seat, and spreading under the crack and flowing down the hall, rusting the metal.

OpenBSD and company might not be the only escapes: there's also Mezzano.

Its time to turn off the LAMP.

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Old 04-14-2023, 04:30 PM   #34
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OpenBSD and company might not be the only escapes: there's also Mezzano.
I actually wonder why I had not seen that system before! Bookmarked, thank you.
 
  


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