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Old 09-03-2018, 08:58 AM   #16
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Daemonforums consists of users helping each other. It is not a support arm of any of the BSDs.
Very true, my friend. But, they have highly experienced end users like you there that can and do offer valuable help on a daily basis.
Daemonforums is an invaluable resource. I'm glad that you're posting here as well.
 
Old 09-03-2018, 01:14 PM   #17
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Daemonforums consists of users helping each other. It is not a support arm of any of the BSDs.
That is very true, but I never said that it was, I suggested that support is available there - like here where people get support for Linux.
 
Old 09-10-2018, 06:40 AM   #18
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BSD uses GNU software, just as Linux does
This is an entirely false statement.

edit: btw, daemonforums are quite OpenBSD-centric, which is logical as FreeBSD has their own forums and NetBSD is too much of a niche.

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Old 09-10-2018, 08:25 AM   #19
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The BSDs do use GNU software - they only compile & include the base O/S utilities in their basic offerings.
 
Old 09-10-2018, 08:35 AM   #20
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Most of the base operating system in "the BSDs" comes from "the BSDs". The rare cases where GNU utilities are used (like GCC) are sometimes replaced by better alternatives (e.g. FreeBSD uses Clang instead). There is no "GNU/somethingBSD" anymore, for very good reasons. (Debian's "GNU/kFreeBSD" can be considered dead as far as I'm aware.)
 
Old 09-10-2018, 10:43 AM   #21
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The BSDs do use GNU software - they only compile & include the base O/S utilities in their basic offerings.
Linux distributions also package software released under permissive BSD, MIT, ISC, etc, etc licences...
 
Old 09-10-2018, 11:28 AM   #22
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The rare cases where GNU utilities are used ...
It's not so rare. The OpenBSD Project, for example, states:
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For historical reasons, the OpenBSD base system still includes the following GPL-licensed components: the GNU compiler collection (GCC) with supporting binutils and libraries, GNU CVS, GNU texinfo, the mkhybrid file system creation tool, and the readline library. Replacement by equivalent, more freely licensed tools is a long-term desideratum.
As an example of long-term transition, clang is in base and is used in in the build toolchain, however gcc is still a requirement for building the OS on some architectures. OpenBSD is not cross-compiled.*

* Except in the first phase of porting to a new hardware architecture.

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