I'm going to try and install FreeBSD on this old 60mhz 24mb ram computer I just remembered I had. The problem is, there are some documents on it that I may need, and also it has Windows 3.1 which I'd kind of like to save, just in case I need to use the computer for desktop purposes again someday. It has a 500mb hd, and I wan't to make a disk image of it and upload it to my ftp server(or if there is another method that would be better I can do that) and then I'll wipe it and go through the install. The problem is, how do I make the hard drive image and save it directly to another computers hard drive since I can't save it locally first.
Any suggestion? Maybe do something clever with the FreeBSD live cd?

I would appreciate any help,
HK

there are some disk cloning softwares here

http://ultimatebootcd.com/

I give that a shot, but will it let me save it to another computer?

hi there

it will allow u to cone ur partition to another hdd partiton

But does it have to be a local partition? Because the entire 500mb is one partition and I want to back it up. Is there anyway I can mount the partition, over the network, on another computer and just copy all the files over? I'm not sure how I would go about doing that though.

what it will allow is that u boot with the CD

then allow u to amke an image ands save to another partiton locally not on network i think

regards

Well, with imaging software like Norton Ghost, yes, you still need available space for the compressed file. I don't know of any software that would allow you to compress and xfr on the fly.

I would suggest if you have your Windows install disks just upload your data files to your ftp server and just re-partition the drive.

KC

I suppose I can always just do some bit torrenting to get windows, but I guess I could boot using the live cd and use the ftp command to send the files to my server?

i'd wanted to do the same thing, i eventually came across http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/

just posting in case anyone else come across this thread in search of an answer

not true at all..well, maybe for the home version of ghost.. i dunno.. never used it... i use symantec ghost corporate at work, and the application is installed on the server, set the server up to accept a dump image, use a ghost boot disk to boot the computer(with network drivers) you want to image, and attach to the session... tell it to send, and viola... the image is on the server... same thing for dropping the image back onto a machine..


ANYWAYS....

I'm curious as to what docs would be on a windows 3.1 that you would still need?? and the chances that you will ever have a desktop use for a 60Mhz machine again?? regardless... one thing you could probably do is boot with knoppix and if there is a network share you can mount, you maybe able to do it with dd..

i.e. -
*assuming the old box has a network connection and cdrom

boot the old box with knoppix... mount a network share to /mnt/storage (windows or nfs, doesn't matter)...
should work..

Upper applies for following too.

Some experience of mine under even much more restricted circumstances:
Laptop 20Mhz, 4MB RAM, 128MB HDD, no CD, no Network, Win3.1.
Tried to find any HDD-imaging app to save HDD to floppies.
PartImage is a no-go with floppies.
SavePartition would work, but size of chunks has to be stated in
MB unfortunately, so practically it would write only 1MB per floppy,
terrible waste.
Tried several versions of Ghost, only one of them would finally
work.(Don't remember now which, but if there's demand for this
I might check, don't hesitate to ask).
Only way to get it going was with Image-All switch.
Tried with high compression, it filled 20 floppies an then
gloriously died.
Image-All(sector-to-sector) switch and compression-rate might depend on available RAM and CPU, I guess.
Switching to fast compression would finally do the job.
Floppies used were overformated with 2M30 to a net of 1748KB (Overformat capability may depend on the specific drive and should
be thoroughly tested to be reliable).
The fully crammed 128MB HDD resulted in a 91MB image distributed
over 68 floppies.
Take this as a last resort, not highly recommendable, but sure feasable...

P.S. Anyone curious what I then installed (floppie-chunks again)
on this oldie?
Zipslack 9.0 (Kernel lowmem.i first, custom ~500KB later)
running flawlessly, but sloooooow.....

I don't think you can use a FreeBSD Live CD because you don't have enough ram.Try Frenzy CD for that.As I know it is possible to boot with that ram.
1)
You can do this by starting computer with a small linux which lets-you to mount a smbfolder on a windows machine and wich content dd ,cp and gzip to compress on the fly the partiton.Normaly you must have an supported network card.
2)
Another method is using a small linux to boot and run dolly cloning utility.The same problem you must have an supported network card and configured of course.
3)
An Linux or FreeBSD hardrive in the computer and save the partion on that after you boot from that drive.
4) Same as above but using dolly cloning utility .

All the Best !

do a dd to the network.

-=SuperChicken=-