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Old 12-16-2017, 11:58 AM   #1
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FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso does not create any UEFI boot entries


I downloaded FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso and verified both sha256 and sha512 checksums. I burnt and verified the DVD with k3b.

In my point of view this installer disc does not create any boot entries regardless if the SATA HN-M101MBB disc is connected to sdb or sda.

A boot entry is when I enter UEFI on my ASUS-g75VW and check the last tab. There is none except the one for the optical drive when a bootable worm media is inserted. Which is for example sysrescue-cd or FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso .

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I tried it for more than 4 hours. Different approaches. Which also included an hour ago, moving sdb to the empty sda bay.

I refer to the gnu linux drive names for sda and sdb. I know freebsd calls them differently.

The "rescue shell" shows with the build in commands that the HN-M101MBB disc had some new contents written on it.

I also tried one approach I found on the net which were.

stolen from https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/53318/

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gpart set -a active /dev/ada0
gpart set -a bootme -i 1 /dev/ada0
gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0
The commands were accepted but a reboot resulted in no result

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I use gnu linux for quite a while. So there should not be an issue on regards on checking the checksum, burning the worm media, booting that worm media, following the graphical installer.

I used my android tablet to read the docs and look up for help online.

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The installer told me that I have UEFI and it needs gpt. I just hit enter because of frustration after 2 hours. So basically hit just Enter always, without any customisation. So even the basic route did not succeed in any bootable freebsd here.

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critisim:

*)why do i need 32bit bloat?
*) The installer does not really allow an easy resize of the 9xx GiB partition to something reasonable as 80GiB.
*) Why do i need 3.5GiB Swap on a 20GiB RAM box?

rescue shell spams, from a long term gentoo user, an acpi error:
ahcich2: SNTF 0x0001
It is kinda impossible to type anything because of that spam.

The installer hangs because of the dhcp client has a timeout
the dhcp client sometimes finds my combo adsl router modem

The liveDVD has No X server. I tired the usual suspect startx. nope. i googled and it said startx.

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I assume the FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso is the wrong install media for my ASUS g75VW notebook. It's an UEFI based - intel ivybridge notebook. gnu linux refers to the architecture as amd64. The nvidia gpu 660m gtx is hardwired to the lvds, vga, hdmi, mini displayport.
No crap intel gpu is being used although the i7-3610qm has one build in.

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The installer disc, i did it for 4 hours, told me always reboot, and than I kept the installer disc in it, which pops up again install / shell / live-cd. When i remove that installer cd, the box is dead. Because I do not have any uefi based entries.

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for example gentoo gnu linux needs for example the following commands to create those uefi entries with booted up sysrescue-cd, when these are missing.

mount the boot partition
grub2-install --efi-directory=/boot/EFI

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I'm kinda certain I made some error which should be obvious to the longterm freebsd user.

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I want to point out, that I went through the install process at least 7 times. That includes booting, entering wlan password, setup user root, setup discs, waiting, rebooting and seeing it does not load the operating system. It only loads the livecd.
I tried different routes. First route was the route I wanted to go, to specialise it to my need.
Later routes just were to hit enter, to stay on the most tested way, just enter, to keep the installer quiet.
last two attempts were on sda bay instead of sdb. first one with wifi setup, last one with skipped wifi

Most of the time I just say, whatever format hole disc, give me freebsd.

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hardware errors can be ruled out
checksum of the worm media was verified with k3b
checksum of iso was verified
the harddisc is okay
the notebook is okay
uefi has some flaws, but i blame microsoft for it, and asus for shipping the notebook with uefi.
bios can be ruled out, as it boots flawless gentoo.
I swap my sda SSD regularly because of my backup strategy. So i recreate the uefi mappings for grub2 kinda regularly. ssd => a->-b->c->a-> and so on
When it boots gentoo it should boot anything else also with gpt partition table

Last edited by _roman_; 12-16-2017 at 12:11 PM.
 
Old 12-16-2017, 01:34 PM   #2
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Isn't this a repitition & elaboration of Post #18 Here posted by yourself?

You didn't get the moaning in, that's true.
 
Old 12-17-2017, 12:47 PM   #3
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Either switch to legacy boot mode or do some reading:

https://wiki.freebsd.org/UEFI
https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?...uefi&sektion=8

(or go back to using Linux)
 
Old 12-17-2017, 12:59 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by business_kid View Post
Isn't this a repitition & elaboration of Post #18 Here posted by yourself?

You didn't get the moaning in, that's true.
Right. The other topic is about my derailing opinion, which do not belong to this topic. the other topic is clear obvious is about derailing, finding an alternative to the existing gentoo installation.

This topic is about why it does not boot.

The slackware Iso managed somehow to chainload Freebsd.
I saw many ntp error spam messages in the, "init 3" stage. The keyboard had a big delay, I was unable to login as user root.
When the tablet works during the test period, so should my notebook network interface also work and do not moan about ntp errors. Clearly not my "network node" fault in regards of ntp errors!

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You are right I am back to linux.

The offical iso is not bootable on UEFI.
The file system is something different which I am not used to.

Quote:
Either switch to legacy boot mode or do some reading:
nope the ASUS g75vw does not boot regardless of the bios settings. And the uefi is kinda shrinked down to a few settings

e.g. I used that. And i refer to external guides, so I do not use my own words which may be misleading on how the option is called by ASUS UEFI.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...eed-it-enabled

I did that because I already knew about it, some hint on a howto / wiki I found with my tablet during evaluation of FREEBSD on ASUS g75VW.

The hardware is kinda dated. It should at least boot. No ntp errors

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Just last question.

Does the iso, named above, generate a bootable operating system with ASUS UEFI?

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I assume when I use an empty harddisc in a notebook it should be able to generate a bootable operating system. I also assume when there is only one empty harddisc in the system wiht the worm installer, it should give me a functional operating system. Like e.g. Winwdows 10 installer disc. Linux mint installer disc. Slackware installer disc?

In comparison, also refering to my own topic, gentoo alternative. The slackware installer dvd generated a bootable slackware.

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Personal opinion: The freebsd handbook is kinda excellent. the installer disc is broken and needs some improvement

Thanks anyway for your responses.

I mark this thread as solved. As it means read the manual. Use something else. Or broken disk which I highly doubt, as the checksum for the file and checksum for the discs were verified before using them.
I also did several attempts to get it done.

The not so common used file systems, the not so common used data structure of the bootloader and some weeks of reading just the docs to get this box maybe running, are ruling out this operating system for myself.

I'd expected an answer like: Freebsd does not support UEFI

Which is the case

https://superuser.com/questions/6789...ll-on-uefi-gpt

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I have tried to install FreeBSD on Asus G75VW. Setup will partition the disk, install everything.

At reboot I see this: "Reboot and select proper boot device" "or Insert Boot Media in selected boot device abd press a key"

So basically it has no idea there is an os. gpart show this as partitions: freebsd-boot freebsd-ufs freebsd-swap

Just to be clear, this is FreeBSD-only setup. As a test I installed Windows-only and Ubuntu-only setups and they both run well after reboot.
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According to this site, the EFI boot loader for FreeBSD has yet to be integrated into the FreeBSD binary releases.
To make things clear, I was not the person who created this topic which I quote above!

In bugs.gentoo.org similar way, it mean Won't fix status.

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I may try TRUEOS, after I checked what are the differences to the other BSD stuff.

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Old 12-17-2017, 02:55 PM   #5
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That thread you linked to is old. UEFI boot is supported. If you'd read the man pages and documentation I linked to, you'd have seen that: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view...evision=264095

The installation media just may not set this up automagically for you.

You're not familiar with the filesystem because it's not Linux.

TrueOS is based on FreeBSD (it used to be PC-BSD).
 
Old 12-17-2017, 08:36 PM   #6
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freebsd does support uefi, but beware unless it has changed, freebsd will overwrite your existing efi partition during installation causing loss of booting other distros/windows. Would suggest to make a second efi partition just for freebsd to prevent this from happening.

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