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Old 07-22-2019, 04:51 PM   #1
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fail to connect to xorg


I can't install xorg in FreeBSD 12. The message says "xinit: giving up; xinit: unable to connect to X server: connection refused; xinit: server error". It then refers me to wiki.x.org. Does anyone know why BSD can't download xorg?
 
Old 07-22-2019, 08:21 PM   #2
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Have you installed X? It's not in FreeBSD out-of-the-box.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.IS...dbook/x11.html
 
Old 07-23-2019, 12:38 AM   #3
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What computer are you on, what hardware are you using? It could be, you need to install the correct videodrivers. Please give us details.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 10:53 AM   #4
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I have two Samsung 500 Gb SSD and 16 Gb of ram. I do not know what you mean by X. Is that xorg? All I
can say is that I successfully downloaded xorg before and had both KDE and XFCE on each SSD, but but now all I get when trying to get a GUI is what I described above.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 11:10 AM   #5
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Let's avoid further confusion. X.Org is an implementation of the X Window System, sometimes named by its version number, X11.

On FreeBSD, you install X.Org (X11, or the X Window System) after having already installed the OS. There are three ways to install it, as outlined on this page --->>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.IS...x-install.html

Which method did you use?

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Old 07-23-2019, 01:12 PM   #6
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I downloaded the binary pkg with # pkg install xorg command. As I previously said, I have obtained
xorg in the past and had a GUI, but now I can't. It seems like xorg will not allow me to use the xorg server.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 01:32 PM   #7
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I've always wondered why Does FreeBSD not come with xorg and at-least one desktop? Why not do like Slackware and give people the option to install them from the start or go cli only. IMO having it with no xorg and gui would just turn people away from trying it.
 
Old 07-23-2019, 02:25 PM   #8
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I'm not a FreeBSD user, so this is just conjecture, but the separate installation and provisioning required might account for the popularity of "desktop-included" FreeBSD distributions like GhostBSD and TrueOS.

After the installation page in the Handbook I referenced above, there's a page for configuring, a page for fonts, a page for the display manager, a page for window managers, a page for a compositor, and a page for troubleshooting.

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Old 07-23-2019, 08:36 PM   #9
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OP, have you checked the log files? They ouoght to offer some clues.

Slackware_fan_Fred, I suspect the answer to your question is that FreeBSD is more likely to be used as a server OS than a desktop OS. As an aside, I ran FreeBSD in a VM for a while. I found putting together the system a marvelous learning experience. The FreeBSD Handbook is one of the best pieces of documentation I've seen.

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Old 07-24-2019, 01:02 AM   #10
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My best guess it is about the videocard. The link Jggimi posted gives a clue about how to handle them. Checking the Xorg.0.log files as Frankbell suggested is also worthwhile.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 10:35 AM   #11
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To answer the shebang question the first line is ! /bin/sh. How can my problem
be the videocard if I can still get a GUI if I install a linux distro? If BSD
is primarily for servers, am I barking up the wrong tree to run BSD as a desktop
OS? If so what is the most secure linux distro? Since I heavily depend on this
single app (6.5 hours per weekday) I am considering buying a low priced Windows laptop with 12 Gb of ram just to run this single app.
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:06 AM   #12
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Without posting any useful command output or log file contents, you are quite simply pissing in the wind in expecting others to come up with ideas to resolve this for you.

Your choices are simple:

1) examine the log files, read the handbook and learn to set up the OS
2) Use Linux / another OS to achieve whatever it is you're trying to achieve
 
Old 07-24-2019, 11:50 AM   #13
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Quote:
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To answer the shebang question the first line is ! /bin/sh. How can my problem
be the videocard if I can still get a GUI if I install a linux distro? If BSD
is primarily for servers, am I barking up the wrong tree to run BSD as a desktop
OS? If so what is the most secure linux distro? Since I heavily depend on this
single app (6.5 hours per weekday) I am considering buying a low priced Windows laptop with 12 Gb of ram just to run this single app.
I'm of no help on BSD since I've never used it but you could give MidnightBSD a try if you prefer BSD over Linux, the maker of it has a video on Youtube on how to install XFCE... if I remember.
https://www.midnightbsd.org/
 
Old 07-24-2019, 01:39 PM   #14
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I am sorry for wasting the time of the members who tried to help me. Since I had
previously installed xorg in FreeBSD 12, I thought the problem was not that difficult, but I have been shown the contrary. Regarding the comment of cynwulf "expecting others to come up with ideas to resolve this for you" I would like to
say that I found nothing in the FreeBSD documentation that could help me. I know
the open souce intellects like to say RTFM. I have a response to that acronym
with another acronym and that is YDKWYDK and it means You Do Not Know What You Do Not Know. In other words if you can't find it in the manual, what are you to do?

cynwulf, I was looking for help not charity. Your super intelligence and arrogance reminds me of two others prominent in the computer field-Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. I will plod on with my open source efforts but I will no longer
waste LQ's time. I find it ironic that when I installed FreeBSD it congratulates me and urges me to pass a copy along to my friends. I will not do that to my friends!
 
Old 07-24-2019, 02:25 PM   #15
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If you have not yet wiped the system, posting the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log might offer us some clues as to the source of the problem. If it's too late, or you're no longer interested in pursuing it further, I'm sorry, and I wish you better luck in the future.
 
  


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