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Old 03-01-2018, 03:30 PM   #151
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Thanks, JWJones, but I like to ask the person before I use their shots to be polite and rufwoof and I are friends. He has one shot on the previous page to this that uses a lot of colors in it and what attracted me to his initially.

When I said I had room for one more, that was just so I didn't have to make a new row on the page. There is one slot I have a link to the FreeBSD forums and his avatar could go there. I have unlimited bandwidth and storage so if you use different WM or DE and would like to provide some Solaris shots I could work that out. I do want to stick with BSD or UNIX though.

I have a link to my site in my profile if you're interested, JWJones. I have wallpapers, some of which I made, and a few Fluxbox styles. And some Thinkpad wallpapers.

Not to mention my beginners tutorial on how to build a FreeBSD desktop from scratch.
 
Old 03-01-2018, 03:53 PM   #152
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Thanks, JWJones, but I like to ask the person before I use their shots to be polite and rufwoof and I are friends. He has one shot on the previous page to this that uses a lot of colors in it and what attracted me to his initially.

When I said I had room for one more, that was just so I didn't have to make a new row on the page. There is one slot I have a link to the FreeBSD forums and his avatar could go there. I have unlimited bandwidth and storage so if you use different WM or DE and would like to provide some Solaris shots I could work that out. I do want to stick with BSD or UNIX though.

I have a link to my site in my profile if you're interested, JWJones. I have wallpapers, some of which I made, and a few Fluxbox styles. And some Thinkpad wallpapers.

Not to mention my beginners tutorial on how to build a FreeBSD desktop from scratch.
Oh yeah, no problem, just wanted to point out some other twm users, no expectations as far as using the screenshots.

Great, I will check out your site! I've thought of trying FreeBSD, but I'm pretty happy with OpenBSD. Might just have to do it anyway!
 
Old 03-01-2018, 04:08 PM   #153
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I actually prefer FreeBSD as a desktop with Fluxbox as a WM. It feels more polished, but that may be due to my familiarity with it.
 
Old 03-01-2018, 06:11 PM   #154
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rufwoof, you're the only person I know who uses twm and I have room for one more persons screenshots featuring different DE and WM on my site. There is a section for them with 11 peoples screenshots now. I'd like to use yours if you're good with that and would give some detail how you went about setting it up.
Fine with me Trihexagonal.

As you know I'm more of a BSD noob, so far from the best person to use as a guide for setting things up. Part of the reason I prefer OBSD over FBSD is that OBSD pretty much works straight out of the box for me. I did start recording my twm settings/setup which have since evolved some ... https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ze-4175618143/

I tend to upload images to image hosting services, which can sometimes just disappear, so any of what I have posted you are more than welcome to copy/post or whatever as you desire. You're more than a star in my book Trihexagonal Helped me no end when I was first looking into FBSD for which I am truly grateful.
 
Old 03-01-2018, 06:34 PM   #155
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Helped me no end when I was first looking into FBSD for which I am truly grateful.
You're being much kinder than I deserve, rufwoof. I gave you a hard time to no end, for which I am sorry, but it was never personal with me.

I'm taking a couple days off to relax before I start. I'll pick out what I like best and maybe attach the files provided in your thread. It won't take any time to make a page and get it up once I get organized.

If you could send me your avatar so I could post it above your name that would be great and I'll let you know when it's up. Mail it to me or whatever works for you.

Yours will show what can be done with twm. I heard someone say they didn't know there were so many WM and DE and people will no doubt be surprised.
 
Old 03-01-2018, 06:45 PM   #156
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The openup utility is amazing. Now that OpenBSD 6.2 offers binary updates for my architecture (amd64) via the syspatch utility I use that.
I run on amd64 also. Did have a nvidia card installed, but the system also has onboard Radeon so for OBSD usage reasons I removed the nvidia.

Isn't syspatch for (binary versions of patching) the base system? I believe openup in effect runs both that and third party program updates/patches such that syspatch isn't required to be run ???

I've used Debian (Jessie) main repo's only for a few years now as my primary boot (migrated over to that after XP support was withdrawn). I dual boot that using grub4dos as the first layer boot, that chains to Debian installed grub2, and also have OBSD as a boot choice as part of that. Generally - three partitions, two ext3 (as that can be mounted as either ext2 style from OBSD or as ext4 under Debian), the first being the Debian partition and the second being a data partition. The last is a6 type i.e. OpenBSD. With that setup I can download the bsd.rd using Debian, saving it to the / of the first partition and then boot and install that. Saves on a reboot if I'm in Debian at the time want to install OBSD freshly. After running through the OBSD installation that takes just minutes, instead of rebooting I S(hell) and mount the 2nd ext3 partition and run a script that copies across all of my configuration for OBSD. I then reboot that new install and only then validate the bsd.rd (as you can't do that under Debian). The script I was using to do that is ...
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# run after booting the newly installed bsd.rd to check that the bsd.rd
# used to do the install has a valid signify. This is the code/script for when I was tracking --current
cd /mnt
mkdir sda1
mount /dev/sd0i sda1
cd sda1
cp bsd.rd /mnt/sda2/reinstall-openbsd/bsd.rd
# also copy to / so if we need to boot that under bsd
cp bsd.rd /bsd.rd
cd /mnt
umount sda1
cd /mnt/sda2/reinstall-openbsd
ftp https://ftp.mirrorservice.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/`uname -m`/SHA256.sig
key1=`ls /etc/signify/openbsd-??-base.pub | tail -2 | head -1`
key2=`ls /etc/signify/openbsd-??-base.pub | tail -2 | tail -1`
(signify -C -p $key1 -x SHA256.sig bsd.rd || signify -C -p $key2 -x SHA256.sig bsd.rd) || exit 1
I've recently switched over to installing --release and using openup (i.e. all pre-built binaries, I don't compile things for myself). I got caught a few times with --current snapshots and packages being out of sync with each other that wasn't to my liking (update ... and things didn't work). I was only tracking that as it avoided having to worry with compiling stuff. openup eliminates that issue however.

So far I've avoided upgrading Debian to Stretch and I'm sticking with Jessie (which is now oldstable) for the time being, but increasingly booting OBSD as my primary boot. Both read/write data to the same data partition anyway. I just tend to backup that data partition only, as OS's are easily 'recovered' anyway, data and configuration loss is much more of a risk. Whilst Debian do a great job as a one stop/provider point, I like the simplicity of Unix style over SystemD style, along with the all in a single bundle (kernel, user space and documentation (man)) OBSD arrangement.

I've been through the eternal desktop customisation to look good cycle many many times, but now I'm settling on simplicity. A desktop after all is just a program launcher so I'm less concerned with spending ages tweaking/fixing that and I'm content with the simplicity/ease of use that twm provides
 
Old 03-01-2018, 06:55 PM   #157
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You're being much kinder than I deserve, rufwoof. I gave you a hard time to no end, for which I am sorry, but it was never personal with me.

I'm taking a couple days off to relax before I start. I'll pick out what I like best and maybe attach the files provided in your thread. It won't take any time to make a page and get it up once I get organized.

If you could send me your avatar so I could post it above your name that would be great and I'll let you know when it's up. Mail it to me or whatever works for you.

Yours will show what can be done with twm. I heard someone say they didn't know there were so many WM and DE and people will no doubt be surprised.
Never took offence Trihexagonal, so don't be sorry, nothing to be sorry for as far as I'm concerned,

As for avatar, I haven't got one. Rufwoof was the username I adopted when I first moved away from XP and took up PuppyLinux initially. Seemed a appropriate choice of online name at that time. I did use a picture of a dog typing at a laptop keyboard for a while, but that wasn't mine, borrowed (breach of copyright I suspect) from somewhere.

Enjoy your break/downtime, hope you're warmer and have less snow/ice that us over here in the UK at present. Had been a pleasant mild winter up to a few days ago. At least spring is just around the corner.
 
Old 03-01-2018, 07:23 PM   #158
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Local weather report (see attached)

I use curl for that (pkg_add curl), and wttr.in web site.
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# change to your city
CITY=sw19
/usr/bin/env LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -T "Weather" -geometry 136x44+0+0 -fa DejaVu:size=9 -e "curl wttr.in/~$CITY;read"
You can specify a town/city such as newyork, or a zip/post code (as in my case SW19 i.e. Wimbledon). I had to set the env LANG=.... part in order to get lines rather than characters being drawn (box lines) and I tweaked the geometry and font size until it fitted my 1440x900 resolution nicely.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:03 PM   #159
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Isn't syspatch for (binary versions of patching) the base system? I believe openup in effect runs both that and third party program updates/patches such that syspatch isn't required to be run ???
Yup. That's correct. I just enjoy running syspatch. The openup utility runs flawlessly.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 04:36 AM   #160
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If you could send me your avatar so I could post it above your name that would be great and I'll let you know when it's up. Mail it to me or whatever works for you.
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Old 03-03-2018, 10:51 AM   #161
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I got your page up this morning, rufwoof. I used the avatar and screenshots you provided and the twmrc.txt file you provided in one of your posts.

If something doesn't look right just let me know.
 
Old 03-04-2018, 06:10 PM   #162
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If something doesn't look right just let me know.
I think we need to get this thread back on topic and have more screenshots in the bsd screenshot thread. Just a suggestion. Great screenshots!
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Old 03-17-2018, 12:31 PM   #163
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OpenBSD goodness and XFCE.
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Old 03-28-2018, 01:36 PM   #164
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My T400 running FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p8. This is the first T400 I've owned and personally prefer the T61.
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My X61 .mp3 player running FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p8.
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