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Mandrake 10.0
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Description: From mandrake club, download of the 5 CD powerpack official Mandrake Linux 10.0 version
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:05 PM   #1
RolledOat
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Distribution: Suse 9.0 Professional
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: $120.00 | Rating: 10

Pros: Just works, with Nvidia drivers installed automatically
Cons: None that I can say so far



Spent a couple of evenings downloading the 5 CD official powerpack version of Mandrake 10.0. All I can say is that I am VERY positively surprised. I tested the 10.0 rc version, and had no end of problems. I was expecting to have some problems with this version. Not the case. To be honest, this version may actually pull me away from Suse which was, till now, the cleanest, soothest and most error free distro I have used. Keep in mind, it has only been about 2 hours now, and most of that was playing with noatun (awesome app, read below), but have yet to encounter ANY flaw.

Without a doubt, this is the new distro for my friends and family. I got this through the silver Mandrake club membership. $120/year, a little pricy, but then again, it all goes to the cause.

RolledOat.

Install
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Easy - Added Gnome to check it out, added many applications. About 20 minute install.
Installation is fairly straighforward. Making changes in the summary screen is
probably a bit beyond the total newbie, but would a true newbie be doing this?

Software Update:
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Hmmm. Every time I try to perform an online update, it tells
me that my password is wrong. Can't say how slick or smooth this process is.
Hmm, I guess that Mandrake Online is NOT included in Mandrake club. Will update
when I learn more.

Impressions
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KDE 3.2 is faster. I thought my system was responsive with 3.1 (2GHz processor)
KDE is EXTREMELY polished. It detected noatun not responding automatically (why can't I start all 12 visualization plugins at once! :) ) and it 'unstuck' it. I wasn't really paying attention, and couldn't reproduce. All I know is noatun wouldn't respond to mouse, then all of a sudden, it was back after a pop up dialogue.
Very clean interface. Nice default font selections.
While KDE responds faster, Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc, no difference in loading. I want to explore the 'preload' options in KDE.

Personal Pref's department
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Could use a better icon set.
Shoulda grabbed GnomeMeeting 1.0 (0.98 included)
Gimp is still version 1.2
Possibly, streamlined start menu too much. Instead of about 16 categories that go about 3 deep, there are now about 8 that sometimes go 4-5 subcategories deep. Well, come on, I have to complain about something!

Strange
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xmms not installed by default, which may surprise people, however, noatun now has as many or more plugins as xmms, and the playlist options are better. I was going to slight Mandrake for not installing xmms by default, but playing with noatun, I see why.

For the very first time ever, my HP694C not detected automatically. (Rhat 6.1, 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, Mandrake 9.0, 9.2, 10.0 rc, Suse 9.0), but not the official version? Weird. Configured manually no problem.
I would have put k3b under multimedia-->CD burning. It is under System-->Archiving.
OpenOffice 1.1 seems to load slower in Mandrake 10.0 than Suse 9.0
Could not find File Manager: Super User Mode.

Very Cool
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Kontact - great application. Calendar, organizer, address book, etc.
Playing with NoAtun, I managed to cause it to lock up. KDE told me it had locked up,
was going to try to 'unlock it' and it DID! All without interupting playback
Screensavers are categorized - Love the OpenGL screensavers. Kinda makes you want to not use the keyboard.
Nvidia-driver installed automatically.
glxgears gives
46361 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9272.200 FPS
46351 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9270.200 FPS
46364 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9272.800 FPS

7K with 2.4 Kernel. Performance is awesome
 
Old 04-17-2004, 12:11 PM   #2
RolledOat
 
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Ooops.

Dell Optimplex GX260
256 Ram, 2 GHz processor
LG 24x10x48 CD-RW
Nvidia GeForce4
HP Deskjet 694C
21" Sony Monitor
All function fine.

More Information

Alright I have uncovered a couple of things that make
me go hmmm.

Similar to Redhat 8.0, (but not Suse, or other versions
of Redhat), when I start the computer, there is no sound
until I move the main volume slider and the channel that
I am listening to (like CD or PCM). I suspected that this
is due to both a real sound card and onboard sound. It is
something trivial to live with.

Another cool thing. Konqueror now shows file permissions in
plain english. Such as 'Owener can view and modify', 'group can view', other 'forbidden'.

Konqueror now has a password protected 'Online Wallet' that manages stored passwords. I like that a little better than Mozilla, althought, not as convenient as Mozilla, you have to enter your password each time you store a password.

RO
 
Old 05-11-2004, 01:11 AM   #3
Nz_Boy_2004
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Gentoo
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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: $6.50 | Rating: 4

Pros: looks good, easy install, newbie heaven.
Cons: ease of use ease of use and ease of use.


I am yet to get anything to work on this distro im sorry for my low score and I do appreseate the work mandrake do but there distros are so newbie windows like, Im a slackware user now and I lOVE it the best thing ive eva done is changed to slack.
 
Old 05-13-2004, 10:48 PM   #4
xanas3712
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Slackware/Mandrake/Debian (sarge)
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 6

Pros: Newbie friendly installation..
Cons: NOT friendly in terms of other software installation, and not particularly stable


Ok, I had trouble with mandrake 10 and I'll admit that. I had a stalling issue I've been completely unable to correct even with the updates to stay current. Stability is my main problem with mandrake, but the thing is.. despite initial ease of use I think mandrake is harder to use than slackware overall. Also you'll do less real learning that will carry over if you are to switch elsewhere. I think EVERYONE should however learn from mandrakes installation wizard. It is absolutely WONDERFUL and every version they have released has done the most excellent job in the world of making installation easy. If slackware and debian, etc would make attempts to learn from mandrake in this one area I think there would be no reason for mandrake at all. Of course, recognize that I come from the area of having run into problems with mandrake.. so I admit to being biased.

I do recommend trying out mandrake as a first for newbies so I'll keep my recommendation here. I also have seen previous versions have no stability issues so I'm sure that situation may change in the future for 10.0 as well. But right now my main recommendation is, get mandrake, see if you can manage one of the best user friendly installs out there, and then try something like slackware which is much more stable as you'll get used to partitioning and probably lose some of the fear that gets in the way of most people using linux.

 
Old 06-10-2004, 04:45 PM   #5
bigjohn
 
Registered: Jun 2002
Distribution: Ubuntu (usually the latest....)
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Pros: Ease of use
Cons: nothing that I can think of.


Having previously bought Mandrake boxed set's, when I was really struggling with Gentoo, it was a "no brainer" to head for the mandrakestore.com site and order the boxed set disc of mandrake 10 power pack.

I should clarify, that I got the single DVD workstation edition of version 10 power pack, no instruction manual(s) and no support package (excluding one month's mandrakeclub).

The install was breathlessly easy. It took about 20 minute's to install. As it was the powerpack version, the nvidia driver is already included/configured. So no difficulties there.

There's a few other "commercial" goodies included in the "boxed set" version, which just make life even more easy than going via the download edition of mandrake 10.

All hardware was detected OK. In fact the only minor niggle was that I'd got the native resolution wrong for my monitor, so I had to work out how to get rid of the oversized image that meant I had to move the mouse "over the edge" of the monitor to see the entire screen. This was easily accomplished.

The sound worked fine. Whereas with previous version's, I've been offered the "Audigy()" driver, even though my sound card is a SBLive! 5.1 digital and uses emu10k1 driver (previously I've had to run the config tool and select the correct driver).

I installed all the default stuff (plus kde, gnome and the other window manager's, so I can have a "play"). Everything has been fine.

Now while I remember, the only thing I've yet to get sorted, is my network laser printer. The parallel inkjet one configured perfectly first time. But I just can't sus the network laser at the moment.

Whether the ease of install has been aided by the fact that my system is a "medion" one (sold via PCWorld), and pretty standard, I don't know. Though I'd recommend it to anyone to try.
 
Old 06-12-2004, 06:43 PM   #6
KiwiNZ
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Distribution: MDK 9.2
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: $85.00 | Rating: 9

Pros: All hardware detected, including a HPpsc 2310.
Cons: no major issues found ,with the exception of the 2.6 Kernel Web page rendering bug , but the fix is a snip


I have tried many distros over the years from Redhat 7.2 through RH3 WS , Mandrake 9 through 10, Fedora Core 1 and 2 , SunJDS , Xandros, Debian 3 and Mandrake 10 is the best I have used.
I purchased the DVD Powerpack version and are very pleased I did . It has everything I need.
 
Old 06-19-2004, 12:23 AM   #7
uopjohnson
 
Registered: Jun 2004
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu, RHEL, OS X
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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 6

Pros: the good feeling you get that you're finally a linux user
Cons: ridiculously impossible to use for anything


After I spent forever downloading Mandrake and getting over the guilt trip for not joining the Mandrake Club I finally put in the first CD and started the installation. Everything went smooth, so that was a plus, however after that everything really gets kind of annoying.

I won't list all of my little annoyances right now but the worst one by far was when I tried to rm a dir as root with about a thousand files in it and mandrake asked me to confirm EVERY SINGLE FILE. so I had to press y+return about a thousand times... let me tell you how much fun that was. I'm sure if you use the GUI it would go better... but I am unwilling to find out.

The last thing I'm going to do with mandrake is downloaded another distro.
 
Old 06-19-2004, 11:23 AM   #8
RolledOat
 
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uopjohnson,

Post to a thread.

man rm
rm -f *
<slash>rm -r <dirname> (forum is removing the character slash before the rm command)

What you describe is perhaps one of the best features. See, you have to go out of your way to 'accidentally' delete /. :D

RO
 
Old 06-20-2004, 06:35 PM   #9
rrwhite
 
Registered: Apr 2004
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 7

Pros: easy install, looks , control center
Cons: menu, package installer


Mandrake 10 is a very good linux distro. I am a linux newbie (5 months) and I have tried a bunch of them.
I couldn't get my hp1210psc to work properly in any of them (probably my fault because I don't know how to compile an application) except Mandrake and PClinuxos.
I would have written this about PClinuxos except I couldn't figure out where to post it. PCL is a live cd that you can install on your hardrive. It pleases me more than any distro I have tried yet. If I had a place to rate it I would give it a 10. I would reccomend it to any newbie.
 
Old 07-07-2004, 11:43 PM   #10
imemyself
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: CentOS 4, SuSE 10, Tiger
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: $50.00 | Rating: 9

Pros: urpmi, Generally Straight-forward installation, Nice theme, DVD Installation Available
Cons: Maybe a few more packages, A few things could use a little more polishing, Somewhat pricey, have to pay for Mandrake Updates(?), Upgrade from 9.2 caused problems


The installation is pretty easy to follow and well made. It detected my hardware fairly well, though it messed up slightly on the mouse. I had originally tried upgrading from Mandrake 9.2, though once it had finished, it seemed from error messages that some of the modules for the kernel were messed up. It worked fine after reformatting and starting a fresh install. It comes with a fair share of packages, though a few more wouldn't hurt. The new Galaxy looks very nice, and both Gnome and KDE look pretty sharp in it and with the way Mandrake has configured them. One of my favorite things about Mandrake is that you don't have to mess with dependencies with urpmi. :) I also like the DVD installation, because then I can just walk away for an hour or so, come back and its done. No switching CDs every five minutes. Overall it's a very nice distro, especially for people like me who are relatively new to Linux.
 
Old 08-29-2004, 01:58 AM   #11
ashesh
 
Registered: Feb 2003
Distribution: RH8, RH9, FC2
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Pros: Excellent for a newbie, boots fast, shows all window partitions, easy to make settings
Cons:


This is my first installation experience with a distro other than RH-8,9 and FC2. And I enjoyed every moment doing it.

Installation

The experiment was on a friend's system with P4 -1.7GHz, 256MB, 40GB on it. Created a 10GB for linux and have win2k installed. Upon booting from CD, a screen with <F1> and <Enter> to choose from to boot appears. I hit enter, just the way, I always did with RH/FC. After some messages, and a fatal error too,it gave me a "text-based" installation screen. I have never had experience with a text based installation, but then Linux is all about tweauking and fighting to get things work the way we want. Ones the initial panic had subdued, I started reading what was being displayed. Choose the 10GB partition for install and created a 512MB swap. I now needed to create / and /home partitions. I didnot understand what the Justified FS, Justified XFS etc meant, wanted to reboot to read some tutorial. But the system said,it is formatting the drive and asked me to choose from the list of programs that I wanted to install. I choose some programs that I recognized from RH installation and after some setting screens I was asked to reboot to enter Mandrake10.0.

Booting

The boot screen that I got was also a text based screen. Dared to enter the linux inspite of that. Finally got "enter password screed" and was very happy to see that it wasn't a text based screen...;)

I Chose KDE, and found that it was way too faster than kde in RH/FC. The best part is that the control center was popped up and I could make some changes and also got a Lilo-graphical screen for booting.

Upon going to /mnt I found that all my windows drives were also accessible, with read/write permission for FAT partitions and readonly for NTFS partitions.

Tried to play some mp3 songs!!! And was happy to see that I didnt have to download a rpm to enable the distro to allow me to play mp3 as was the case in RH. By default, totem-player was used to play the mp3s. Then tried to play a mpeg clip.. was more than happy to see that totem-player could play it without any problem.

Now I rebooted into windows and found that it had become too slow. Was totally surprised to see this. Secondly, the partitions in Linux were choosen such that / got 5GB and /home only 3 GB. So I deceided to reinstall mandrake. Browsed around to see how to get GUI for installation. And this time aruond when <F1> and <Enter> screen came up, I choose <F1> and types "alt0", which took me to text based installation. I rebooted again and typed "alt1" after pressing <F1>. And I was taken into graphical installation. I created /swap, and / of 4GB of journalized ext2 and /home of 5GB Journalized ext2 filesystem. (Still I dont know what alt9, alt1, journalized FS mean).

The installation went smoothly. Check the windows, and this time, it was as fast as before installing Linux. (Donot know what caused windows to become slow earier...).

The coolest part
Have realplayer, mplayer, adobe-acroreader installed from the CDs itself. Can access all windows partition without having to make changes to /etc/fstab. The best part is that KDE/GNOME that come with mandrake is much faster than those that come with RF/FC. Infact I had installed FC2 in the same system, but found that it was real slow. Moreover Mandrake was able to recognize all my hardware without any problem, whereas FC2 didnt recognize my sound card on this very system.
 
Old 01-29-2005, 09:14 PM   #12
 
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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 3

Pros: automatic partition
Cons: full of bugs,


Mandrake 10.0 Official powerpack
I got the install dvd from a friend of mine (he bought the thing), looking for a windows replacement. I use the computer for internet, multimedia, email and the like.
As i recall the thing installed fine with the exception of a desktop problem (i could only see a part of my desktop, the right and bottom parts appeared out of my screen). In fixing this problem i discovered some other problems for example the control center starts only when it feels like it, changing the resolution would leave me with some colored lines on my desktop and only the hardware reset button still working.
This distribution is full of software, that would not be a problem if all that software would work. The multimedia system crashes after each mp3 song/stream/ movie file. First time i started the email client i was greeted with some dumb welcome tips window which i could not dismiss and blocked the access to the account setup.
Very often the programs didnt start, i would get a turning hourglass in my taskbar for half a minute and then nothing.
I tried to use this distribution instead of windows but i did not managed. Too many bugs, cannonball error windows and stuff not working properly. You hear that Linux is fast and stable. On my rig windows 2k is WAY faster, it works weeks on end without crashing and yes, it also collects like 2 viruses per month. Imho in terms of usability and stability this incarnation of Mandrake looks really bad even near windows 98.
For me it was a complete waste of time.
My friend (who bought the thing) is also far from being happy and i can bet Mandrake will never see his money again.
I replaced Mandrake with BLAG 10000 which i think is pretty much what i was looking for.
My system:
Athlon xp 2400 on Asrock A7VT4 , 512 Mb ram, 80GB IDE, Radeon 9000, integrated sound, integrated lan, +HP Netserver PCI lan.
Upgraded to Mobile Atlon 2400 on Asus A7V880 (Via KT 880) the rest remained the same
 




  



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