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Mandrake 10.0 Community Download
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Description: The newest Mandrake Linux release - 10.0 (Community).

Includes Gnome 2.4, KDE 3.2, and Kernel 2.6.3
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Old 03-15-2004, 11:50 PM   #1
raalynthslair
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Distribution: Fedora 7
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 8

Pros: Good hardware recognition, and the new kernel upgrade
Cons: Time zone "bug" and the "scattered" control centers.



Overall I find that 10.0 is a nice improvement over 9.2, mainly for the kernel and some of the KDE enhancements. The only real downside for me was that it took longer to upgrade on my much faster desktop PC (P4 2.6Ghz, 1.25GB PC2100 RAM) than it did to cleanly install on my older laptop (900Mhz Duron, 256 MB PC100 RAM).

And the time zone was set to "Chicago" during install, but it had to be manually set once on the desktop b/c it reverted to "New York" (still haven't figured that out), with a little tweaking and a few "time warps" *insert corny dance and song here* I was able to get the time and time zone correct.

The control center, which was nicely set to a single page you could go back and forth to (with settings for different things all centralized) is gone. Instead the configurations are split up in related groups, which is nice, but there is no backpeddling into the previous page/menu/screen. Meaning, if you don't tell KDE (what I used to test 10.0) to keep your root password you need to enter it several times to get several small tasks done. It was, however, oddly more user friendly in many of the areas - allowing me to more easily find just what I was looking for.

Overall, however Mandrake has a good solid release, and I would recommend it to new users and as an upgrade for those wanting the latest KDE, Gnome, or Kernels if you're afraid to do them (or don't know how) alone.

A power user on 9.2 will find little different or worth jumping to for (save for NTFS write ability in the 2.6.3 kernel).

Aside from Mandrake's changes
Gnome 2.4 is a nice upgrade for the casual Gnome user. I am not a full-time Gnome user, so I was able to spot only a few changes - see the Gnome folks for a better review.
KDE 3.2 is sharp, and things are only a little different from 3.1... the only pet peeve I have with it is the immensity with which it uses when it opens the "Home" link on the desktop. It tends to take up nearly 2/3 of my screen (in both 1024/x768 and 1280x1024 resolutions). You can, however, save a smaller sized window as default after the first time - very handy. I found the KDE desktop to have all the features and raw flexibility that made me fall in love with it originally. It responds faster than 3.1 (but some of this could be the kernel which is know to support hyperthreading better and generally perform faster overall), and the theming menus are just as powerful as before. Overall, not a bad upgrade, but not crucial on it's own.

 
Old 03-23-2004, 10:40 AM   #2
Tryxl
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Distribution: Mandrake
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 8

Pros: easy install of hardware
Cons: Network connections


I have been playing with Linus for 3-4 years, never made a dedicated move because there was always some compelling issue to cause me to stay with Windows, normally hardware issues. With this version of Mandrake, all of my harware works right out of the box. I cant tell you how nice this was.

I am still having some issues with internet sharing on home network, but I am sure it is just some issue I have not yet found the answer to.

I am running the KDE desktop, and think this will probably be THE Linux distro to get me to move from Windows for more than simply plaing with the OS.
 
Old 03-27-2004, 10:14 PM   #3
jawilson
 
Registered: Mar 2004
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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 1

Pros: I got to reformat my HD...
Cons: none


I installed this to dual boot with WinXP, as I had done with previous versions of mandrake. I had 3 NTFS partitions on the HD, and I used the last one for linux (~45 GB). When I rebooted, nothing appeared; I could not get into Linux or WinXP. So, I tried using the recovery console on the MDK boot disk; it did not work. It turned out that the installer does not configure the partition table correctly, and somehow corrupts the MBR. (I'm not too sure of all of the details...check out the mandrake forums for more detail.) I could not even use my WinXP or Win98 cd to boot and correct the problem. I ended up losing XP and reformating the entire hard drive. I have even heard that this will not solve the problem.
There are some people who say that they have gotten theirs to work, but there are more who have the same problem IF they are trying to dual boot. The Mandrake website does not have any solutions that have worked for me, and I'm pretty peeved that the would release ANY version with such a major and destructive bug.
So, in conclusion, DO NOT INSTALL THIS WITH WINXP. If you hear about someone who got it to work and want to try, that's great, give it a shot. But, at least back up your data first.
 
Old 03-31-2004, 09:10 AM   #4
ctewsley
 
Registered: Mar 2004
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 9

Pros: Faster on my old Athlon slotA 700 than 9.2
Cons: took a long time to install


Mandrake 10.0 is definately a step up from 9.2 I would have to say that if you want to play with it though do a fresh install, it's just easier that way. All in all its a good piece of work and I can't wait to see the stable release.
 
Old 04-01-2004, 05:57 AM   #5
garbagedisposal
 
Registered: Jan 2004
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Would you recommend the product? no | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 3

Pros: Innovative
Cons: Buggy, proprietary


Tries to out do redhat but has been buggy for too many versions...

Mandrake adds it's own proprietary flavour to the already proprietary Redhat.

Getting too far away from Linux for my likes.
 
Old 04-05-2004, 06:44 PM   #6
Braveheart1980
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Distribution: Ubuntu 9.10
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Pros: Faster , detect my hardware really nice
Cons: None


Real nice improvement over 9.2 . I would recommend it 2 everyone 4 it's ease of use and fastness
 
Old 04-06-2004, 02:08 PM   #7
Geneius
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Linspire
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 9

Pros: Easy to Integrate With Windows
Cons: None


I'm a Linux Newbie -- In fact this was the first time I've ever installed Linux or partitioned a hard drive. I partitioned windows and left the linux partion unformated. I told mandrake to install in 'the free space' and it installed quickly and easily. I'm pretty happy with Mandrake. I had considered other distro's like Xandros and Lindows but I went with Mandrake because they seemed to offer easy of installation but with out all the confinements of the other too options. I like the boot up menu which allows you to go back and forth between windows and linux. Mandrake may have just made a convert! The KDE desktop is great! If there was some way to run the software I use professionally on Linux (i.e. Adobe and Macromedia) I'd dump Windows in a heart beat!
 
Old 04-06-2004, 06:09 PM   #8
XavierP
 
Registered: Nov 2002
Distribution: Lubuntu
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 9

Pros: Easy, quick install, very new-user-friendly
Cons: Too gui based for the die hard


I have used every version of Mandrake since 7.1 and, by far, this is the best. The install is the familiar, easy, Mandrake install. Once it is installed, you are into the gui and everything is usable.

If I were introducing someone to Linux (probably via a dual boot, rather than a live-cd, btw) this is the distro I would choose. The menus are laid out very well and the whole thing looks great.

I am very impressed with this distro.
 
Old 04-12-2004, 05:11 PM   #9
aRTee
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: Mandrake
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 9

Pros: Kernel 2.6, KDE 3.2, urpmi
Cons: Not perfect yet, work to do on the tools


Please read my full review of the Community Edition of Mandrake 10.0 here:
http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/review100.html

There sure are some small things to improve for me, and in general. When I first wrote my review, the annoying things like the first cd not booting on many systems were not known.
It seems that on the whole, Mandrake 10.0CE has proved to be as good or bad as any previous final Mandrake release. Some have gotten a lot out of it (including me), some have not had a great experience.

The only thing not working for me is vga resolution of my webcam - this is a kernel issue, and to me a low priority problem.

Why Mandrake would be proprietary (as claimed above) is beyond me, all their own tools are GPL, and the D/L edition has no proprietary / non-GPL stuff in them.
Actually, of all commercial distributions, none are more (GPL/FLOSS) Free than Mandrake (since SUSE's yast went fully GPL, it may well be as free as Mandrake).


The great thing of Mandrake is urpmi or the gui via mcc -> software management, once urpmi is setup, it's all downhill from there.

Currently, I am running Mandrake 10.0 OE, since I updated all I have just at the moment OE went to the presses.
Nothing is perfect in this world, but as I said when I wrote my initial review of Mandrake 10.0CE, it is the best Mandrake Linux sofar, and actually the best Linux I ever used (note: I have not used FC2 yet, nor the latest SUSE - and I will never use a proprietary Linux). I think this will be doubly so for the Official Edition.

To those who would like to try out Mandrake Linux, take the time to find out how to use it, set up urpmi properly (warning: at this very moment - April 12th 2004 - , many ftp repositories are not working correctly), and give it a go.
Remember, if you get stuck, here and on forums like www.mandrakeusers.org people will gladly help you out.

Enjoy Linux,
aRTee
 
Old 04-20-2004, 07:04 AM   #10
fitzy85
 
Registered: Apr 2004
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 9

Pros: So easy to install and use!
Cons: lack of centrino pro wlss support


Ok i have never used linux before and downloaded mandrake after seeing in reviews it was easy to install and use. I put the cds in laptop after setting it to boot from cd first..it began to install fine . i had a little hickup because my laptop(acer Aspire 2001) had 4 primary partitions..once i deleted one it organised the partitioning for me!! continued to install..and worked off first boot :). only thing is on laptops u need 2.6.3 for the trackpad to work !
i heavily recommend this to someone that doesnt know very much about linux
 
Old 04-21-2004, 04:40 AM   #11
Vodka
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Mandrake 10 Community Download
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 9

Pros: Easy to install and to use
Cons: Slow on older systems


I'm nearly a total newbie with linux. I just tried RedHat then Slackware for a few days a year ago.

Mandrake was easy to install on my Toshiba laptop and is easy to use. For Windows native users, there's no problem in my opinion.

I just had some troubles with the sound at the beginning, now it's ok. The only thing that doesn't work at all is the stand-by/suspend mode, specific to Toshiba I guess.

I'll play with this distro for a few months, but I definitely go back to Slackware when I'm more experienced with Linux.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 01:49 PM   #12
BaKsHi
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: Mandrake 10.0 Community
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Pros: 15 minute install, runs smooth, gnome, and the ability to access Windows HD.
Cons: Broadcom wireless card is not compatible with Linux as of now.


I'm a Linux newbie too. I installed Linux Mandrake 10CE right next to Windows XP. Linux is installed on my Samsung 40gig HD and Windows XP on my 80gig. So I gave it enough space to be a normal operating system with ample space :). The install only took 15 minutes, and once installed, I had no serious problems at all. The only problems I've enocuntered is the sound card not working and the wireless drivers not work. The wireless drivers problem I can blame on the manufacturer of my wirless PCI card, "Linksys". The sound problem is Mandrakes fault, and now I have to fix it. All the apps run perfectly well, except maybe Quanta. It had a serious error when I clicked a button. If you want to use Linux and Windows on the same machine. I recommend Mandrake 10. No chance in hell I'm gonna buy Official though, I'm staying with CE until I find good reason.
 
Old 04-25-2004, 06:22 AM   #13
mjjzf
 
Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 9

Pros: Intuitive tools, urpmi, very easy and fast install, a brilliant migration platform
Cons: Skizophrenic user identity, partition issues


I upgraded - made a clean install, to be exact - from Mandrake 9.1. With 9.1 I had some issues with my NVIDIA board memory sharing with onboard sound/ethernet. This has been fixed in 10.0 CE. For the first time, I did not have to set up the ethernet manually. I had to download a driver for my Brother HL-1430 printer. Brother has prepared these, and the download and install was simple enough.
This is the distro and version that has made me format my WinXP partition and reinstall it for games platform only. So now, I dual-boot for the WinXP games system and the LinMandy work/browsing/mail/mediaplayer system. It works - and it is better for my concentration when the games are not immediately at hand...
The install is really sweet. Fast, simple, straightforward in the way one has come to expect from Mandrake. I have always been very impressed with the DiskDrake tool for the partitioning process - it is extremely user-friendly considering the complexity of the task.
Now as for the schizophrenic feature I mentioned among the cons: One is asked whether one wishes to install programming tools, compilers etc. I am not much of a programmer, so I figure that - if I will ever need some of that, I will dig it up and install it. By not checking these in the installation, I forget the main principle of Linux: You may be Joe User, but you are still the sysadmin on this particular system. And every program you dig up - in this context I recommend sourceforge.net and kde-apps.org - you find as a tar ball, which you have to... recompile. Sorry, no compilers found on your system. Hmmm...
Also, after having used DiskDrake, I have tried to use Partition Magic for resizing the Windows partition - and I am told that the disk has partitions created using another disk geometry - amd that a drive letter can't be established -> *crash*. So I can't resize my Windows partition without erasing everything on it, using diskdrake! That is a bit of an annoyance, bit I guess MS never meant for you to be using other systems...
Mandrake is not a complicated system, unless you want to tweak and twist. It is a little tricky because everything looks easy an ui-ish... so you tend to forget that one does not use Linux without thinking first. Still, if you use it based on the default install, a migrating/experimenting Windows user will have no problems using this. You have to weed out the programs a bit. One only needs so many browsers/IM-clients/e-mail clients. My system works absolutely without problems - Mozilla, Evolution, openOffice.org and Gaim is a package, I wouldn't mind running an office with.
A general Linux observation: If one has grasped the concept of mounting drives - CD drives, Floppy, USBs - the file structure is actually much simpler than Windows. Putting your files in /home/you/ is definately much easier than finding your Windows Docs folder starting from C:\
The urpmi program is a beauty when you try to navigate dependencies. I am rather impressed with this. The possibility of using Wine as a compatibility layer to acces Windows programs and certain games is an attractive feature, even if the Wine setup is one of the least intuitive processes, I have ever tried - and that's a shame, since it might attract a lot of people wanting to give a Linux-based system a shot.
Overall, this is a distribution and version which is part of a wave that proves that Linux is desktop, if not game ready. I expect to dual-boot for some time... but I don't expect to go out and buy Longhorn by that time.
 
Old 05-17-2004, 03:51 AM   #14
lastunicorn
 
Registered: May 2004
Distribution: Mandrake
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Would you recommend the product? yes | Price you paid?: D/L | Rating: 8

Pros: Easy install
Cons: Locks up from time to time


I'm a newbie even though this is the second time I've installed Linux. The first time I installed Linux was last year when I used Slackware and I have to say that installing Mandrake was way easier than that. I have fairly new components on my computer and almost all of them were recognized by Mandrake. The only problem I had was with my soundcard which is integrated into an Intel D865perl motherboard. The driver was on the Intel website and I just had to figure out how to put the kernel source in (answers are all here in the forum so far).

I've been playing with Mandrake for just about a week now and it's been great so far. I'm trying to make it so that I can do in Linux what I do in Windows. (Streaming media in browsers, etc.) This I'm sure is just a matter of finding the right applications.

Bottom line, easy set-up and comes built-in with a bunch of applications that make it instantly useful and entertaining.
 
Old 05-19-2004, 09:42 PM   #15
sausagejohnson
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Distribution: Fedora Core 9
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Pros: Graphically nice. Lot's of bells and whistles.
Cons: Extremely bad hardware detection with the Gigabyte 7n400 Pro2 MB


I was very interested with the the nice graphical boot up system and configuration tools. Most users report the community version of 10.0 to be great at hardware detection. But with the Gigabyte 7n400 Pro 2 nForce2 Motherboard it got both the integrated LAN and Firewire IRQ completely wrong. It detected them both at IRQ 16 when the BIOS reports them at 11. All other distributions including Fedore Core 2 Test 2 and RedHat 9 both get it right. Perhaps the Offical Mandrake release has corrected this.
 
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