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Old 01-18-2014, 11:37 PM   #16
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xp is the easiest to dual boot
vista and 7 and 8 are a pain

but xp sp3 is the easiest

install grub on the FIRST linux partition
it's own 500 Meg /boot partition
use dd to make a copy of the first 512 bites
copy that file -- whatever you call it , it can be almost any name
bootsect.lnx
Linux.bin
Zorin.bin
??????.bin
copy it to the windows C:\\ drive
( NO!!! 3.5 in floppy needed any more every linux os will mount a xp NTFS drive)
add a line to the windows "C:\\boot.ini"
Code:
c:\bootsect.lnx="Linux"
for help on that
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022
 
Old 01-19-2014, 12:45 AM   #17
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...something wrong here. Did exactly as asked and got this

jill@jill-ES004AA-ABG-m7369a:~$ tar -xzvf ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
bootinfoscript
CHANGELOG
README
jill@jill-ES004AA-ABG-m7369a:~$ sudo bash ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript
[sudo] password for jill:
bash: /home/jill/Downloads/bootinfoscript: No such file or directory
jill@jill-ES004AA-ABG-m7369a:~$

Bootscript is definitely in the downloads folder.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 01:07 AM   #18
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i am being ignored so i am leaving

xp is VERY easy to dual boot
( the easiest micorsoft os so for , easier than vista and 7 )

the way so far has been "the hard way"
 
Old 01-19-2014, 02:15 AM   #19
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John...my apologies....you weren't being ignored It is simply that I can not understand what you are saying as a newbie and an old one at that. eg how do you install grub; use dd to copy it over......I just haven't a clue. It would be useful to assume that the one needing help is entirely ignorant and needs a step by step explanation of what is required
 
Old 01-19-2014, 07:29 AM   #20
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Then it maybe
Quote:
sudo bash ~/bootinfoscript
if this doesn't work then
Quote:
find bootinfoscript
to find the files location.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 08:55 AM   #21
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EDIT: I just thought of a different possibility for why you aren't seeing the expected menu. Did you ever remove the media (CD or USB or whatever) that you used to install Zorin? If not, the unexpected boot behavior may come from that media still being present. If that guess is wrong, continue with the suggestions below that I was typing before suddenly guessing the other possibility:

Is there any text editor in Linux you know how to use?

If not, nano is a crude self-documenting text editor: basic functions are move around with cursor keys and type changes in. More advanced functions are listed at the bottom of the screen. The important ones are control O to save your changes and control X to leave the editor. You need to edit the file /etc/default/grub such as with the command:
Code:
sudo nano /etc/default/grub
In that file you need to change
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
to
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false

You also should increase the timeout (number of seconds) on the line
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
so that the correct menu is more obvious while you are still learning which part is which.

Once you've done that, the following command will merge that change into grub.conf
Code:
sudo update-grub
I don't know why you were not seeing the expected menu, but having a longer timeout with a visible countdown should make it unambiguous which menu ought to allow booting XP.

Last edited by johnsfine; 01-19-2014 at 09:03 AM.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 09:13 AM   #22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ambo1943 View Post
the only boot menu seen is on the startup splash screen where the options ESC=Boot, F1= Setup, F10 Recovery. When entering the boot menu one entry is SM-DVDRW IDE H16X. the other 3m-WDC wd.
After rereading that a few times, I finally realized what you are describing.

That is NOT the GRUB menu. That is the BIOS boot menu reached because you pressed some special key (varies by BIOS) early in the boot process.

The GRUB menu occurs later in normal booting.

On the BIOS boot menu, the choice SM-DVDRW IDE H16X is your DVD drive. If that boots into Zorin, then (as I guessed before) you left the Zorin install CD in the drive. Things will be less confusing if you remove that.

On the BIOS boot menu, the choice 3m-WDC wd is your hard drive. Selecting that should be the same as removing the CD and then booting without the key that triggers the BIOS boot menu. It should bring you to the GRUB menu from which you should be able to select XP or Zorin. By default that menu just appears for 10 seconds and if you don't choose it chooses Zorin. So watch carefully.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 03:13 PM   #23
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Hi John

Thanks for your reply and understanding. You are correct that what I was seeing is the BIOS boot. No the disk was not left in place and yet for some reason it boot from that choice although when I relooked it had defaulted back to the hard drive.

Anyway I made the changes to the file that you suggested as you can see here and updated the file subsequently



# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
# info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains
# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[ Read 35 lines ]
^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos
^X Exit ^J Justify ^W Where Is ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell

I then rebooted the computer but the Grub Menu failed to appear and Zorin booted automatically.


Any thoughts?
 
Old 01-19-2014, 03:19 PM   #24
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Hi Colourpurple......

Managed to get what you suggested and have copied it here: Thank you




Boot Info Script 0.61 [1 April 2012]


============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================

=> Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of
the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks
in partition 94 for .

sda1: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows XP: NTFS
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows XP
Boot files: /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM

sda2: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: vfat
Boot sector type: Unknown
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files: /boot.ini /ntldr /NTDETECT.COM

sda3: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: Unknown
Boot sector info:

sda5: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Zorin OS 7
Boot files: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab

sda6: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda _____________________________________________________________________

Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders, total 390721968 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors Id System

/dev/sda1 * 63 220,481,440 220,481,378 7 NTFS / exFAT / HPFS
/dev/sda2 373,463,055 390,716,864 17,253,810 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda3 220,481,534 373,463,039 152,981,506 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 220,481,536 370,317,311 149,835,776 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 370,319,360 373,463,039 3,143,680 82 Linux swap / Solaris


"blkid" output: ________________________________________________________________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/sda1 6405996A0EC063FC ntfs HP_PAVILION
/dev/sda2 4B6E-6BC0 vfat HP_RECOVERY
/dev/sda5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ext4
/dev/sda6 e99d25cb-49b6-44b4-89c0-f51ec35e1a26 swap

================================ Mount points: =================================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

/dev/sda1 /mnt/6405996A0EC063FC fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
/dev/sda5 / ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)


================================ sda1/boot.ini: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

================================ sda2/boot.ini: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=========================== sda5/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
set have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
set default="0"

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function recordfail {
set recordfail=1
if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}

function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=en_US
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
if background_color 80,80,80; then
clear
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
set gfxpayload="${1}"
if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
else
set vt_handoff=
fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
set linux_gfx_mode=keep
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=keep
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'Zorin' --class zorin --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-35-generic root=UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-35-generic
}
submenu 'Advanced options for Zorin' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
menuentry 'Zorin, with Linux 3.8.0-35-generic' --class zorin --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.0-35-generic-advanced-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 3.8.0-35-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-35-generic root=UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-35-generic
}
menuentry 'Zorin, with Linux 3.8.0-35-generic (recovery mode)' --class zorin --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.0-35-generic-recovery-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
recordfail
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 3.8.0-35-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-35-generic root=UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ro recovery nomodeset
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-35-generic
}
menuentry 'Zorin, with Linux 3.8.0-31-generic' --class zorin --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.0-31-generic-advanced-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 3.8.0-31-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-31-generic root=UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-31-generic
}
menuentry 'Zorin, with Linux 3.8.0-31-generic (recovery mode)' --class zorin --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.8.0-31-generic-recovery-a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1' {
recordfail
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 3.8.0-31-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-31-generic root=UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 ro recovery nomodeset
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-31-generic
}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin
}
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos5'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos5 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos5 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos5 a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1
fi
linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Windows XP Media Center Edition (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-6405996A0EC063FC' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ntfs
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 6405996A0EC063FC
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 6405996A0EC063FC
fi
drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
chainloader +1
}
menuentry 'Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda2)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-4B6E-6BC0' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod fat
set root='hd0,msdos2'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos2 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos2 4B6E-6BC0
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 4B6E-6BC0
fi
drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=============================== sda5/etc/fstab: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=a16f1983-01f7-49d8-b660-96fdab36cfe1 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=e99d25cb-49b6-44b4-89c0-f51ec35e1a26 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/6405996A0EC063FC /mnt/6405996A0EC063FC auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=================== sda5: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

GiB - GB File Fragment(s)

= boot/grub/grub.cfg 1
= boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-31-generic 1
= boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-35-generic 1
= boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-31-generic 1
= boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-35-generic 1
= initrd.img 1
= initrd.img.old 1
= vmlinuz 1
= vmlinuz.old 1

======================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc: ========================

Unknown BootLoader on sda2

00000000 e9 a7 00 52 45 43 4f 56 45 52 59 00 02 08 20 00 |...RECOVERY... .|
00000010 02 00 00 00 00 f8 00 00 3f 00 ff 00 0f 98 42 16 |........?.....B.|
00000020 b2 45 07 01 b1 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 |.E...A..........|
00000030 01 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................|
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========= Devices which don't seem to have a corresponding hard drive: =========

sdb sdc sdd sde

=============================== StdErr Messages: ===============================

awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
awk: cmd. line:36: Math support is not compiled in
No volume groups found
 
Old 01-19-2014, 07:41 PM   #25
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I notice that options to load efi modules is in the grub.cfg. Have you done any updates to the system recently? Either way,run updates, rerun update-grub, and see it that helps.
 
Old 01-19-2014, 08:09 PM   #26
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This may also help changing this
Code:
GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
to this
Code:
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
in /etc/default/grub, rerun
Code:
sudo update-grub

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Old 01-19-2014, 10:43 PM   #27
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Hi Colourpurple,

I made the change as suggested and as you can see here:

# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
# info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains
# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
[ Read 35 lines ]
^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos
^X Exit ^J Justify ^W Where Is ^V Next Page ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell


Still not showing the boot option.......comments??? Also have run updates. No difference

Last edited by ambo1943; 01-19-2014 at 10:53 PM.
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:13 AM   #28
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Since no one seems to see why the Grub menu is not displayed, maybe it is displayed (for ten seconds) and you don't recognize it as a boot menu, so you let the 10 seconds go by and let Zorin continue to boot.

That is why I suggested changing the 10 seconds to something much longer by editing the line that no says
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
 
Old 01-20-2014, 07:22 AM   #29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsfine View Post
Since no one seems to see why the Grub menu is not displayed, maybe it is displayed (for ten seconds) and you don't recognize it as a boot menu, so you let the 10 seconds go by and let Zorin continue to boot.

That is why I suggested changing the 10 seconds to something much longer by editing the line that no says
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
Hi John

There is nothing to recognise..ie immediately following the initial boot, the screen goes black (blank) and then immediately boots into Zorin. Have tried editing to a longer grub timeout....but still no luck
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ambo1943 View Post
There is nothing to recognise..ie immediately following the initial boot, the screen goes black (blank) and then immediately boots into Zorin.
Booting into Linux takes a while. Grub was installed as part of Zorin, so the name Zorin might be on screen while Grub is waiting for a response to its menu.

I certainly expect the initial (BIOS) portion of booting to be followed by the screen going blank and the Grub menu should be a moment after that.

The up and down arrows are used to make selections in the Grub menu. If the Grub menu is invisible or unrecognizable, the up or down arrows might still work. Try then as soon as the BIOS portion of boot seems to be done. Without being able to see it, my best estimate of when the BIOS portion is done is when the screen goes blank as you described.
 
  


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