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Old 09-08-2006, 03:02 PM   #1
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Zenwalk 3.0 is ready


The development team of the Zenwalk GNU/Linux Operating System are pleased to announce that the latest stable major release, Zenwalk 3.0, is now available for download as a CDROM ISO, and from CD stores.

The ISO image and packages tree can be found here : http://www.zenwalk.org/modules/tinyc...index.php?id=1

This release includes both numerous software and visual advancements. Key software improvements include XFCE-4.3.99.1, the Linux kernel-2.6.17.11 Firefox-1.5.0.6, Thunderbird-1.5.0.5, Xarchiver-0.4 as well as many others all updated to the latest releases (around 200 packages updated or added).

Visual aspects of the desktop have been improved by using a complete Tango icon set as well as new custom wallpapers and themes leading to the most uniform graphical desktop ever. All applications from system tools to text editors and media players look as though they were made for each other as a unified operating system (including the Mozilla suite).

When it comes to installation of the system, the Zenwalk setup wizard is, as usual, a graphical ncurses based menu. The user does not have to type any Linux command to complete the few installation steps, and the installation wizard will detect any hardware device including video cards, networking devices, sound cards, usb peripherals and much more, leading to a completely functional system, ready to perform any task.

Many subsystems have been improved, for example the udev based automount system now have the ability to detect media insertions (CD/DVD...) via uwd, the Udev Watchdog Daemon : a Zenwalk specific development.
Software suspend to disk is now ready to use out of the box : making the computer hibernate is simply achieved by hitting a keyboard shortcut.

Zenwalk features a modern package management system with a graphical user interface called netpkg. Netpkg is extremly flexible, fast, includes dependency tracking and can be used to search packages from multiple repositories that you can choose from the graphical GTK2 menu or from CLI menus depending on the runlevel you are in. All system tools react like this : GTK2 when X is running, ncurses when not in X.

An important aspect of Zenwalk is the expanding community surrounding the distribution. The community supporting Zenwalk has expanded into the following websites:

1. TuxGames.net: TuxGames offers a wide variety of video games ranging from First Person Shooters to Children's and educational games. You will find all of your classic video game favorites as well as the most modern bleeding edge titles there. See http://www.tuxgames.net/ for more details.

2. ZenCommunity: This is a friendly and open user based software community where users can actively participate in building, testing and supporting software with the goal of creating the largest software repository on earth. See http://users.zenwalk.org/ for more details.

3. ZenLive: The Zenwalk Live CD project . ZenLive's releases closely follow new Zenwalk releases and showcase Zenwalk prior to hard drive installation. See http://www.zenlive.tuxfamily.org/ for more details.

4. Fred.org: If you are an artist, you have a blast creating and submitting digital artwork with our main art site: http://f-r-e-d.org/ and in the artwork section of our forums
 
Old 09-08-2006, 03:53 PM   #2
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Can I upgrade from 2.8 to 3.0 with netpkg?
 
Old 09-08-2006, 05:47 PM   #3
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yes, of course,
as far as i remember next lines are engouth:
Code:
init 3
(login as root)
netpkg netpkg
netpkg upgrade-config ('yes' to "change /etc/netpkg.conf" question)
netpkg upgrade-new
netpkg upgrade-config
(if upgrade-new doesn't do it itself, i don't have time to check now):
Code:
netpkg kernel
lilo -v
 
Old 09-08-2006, 11:57 PM   #4
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Thanks guth followed your instructions to a T and it worked great. Oh yeah, netpkg upgrade-new worked it gave me a list of mirrors to install from.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 06:07 AM   #5
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How is the installer on it? After several attempts here the installation kept seeing errors. The last attempt saw an out of partition space error. The root was 1gb with the swap at 2.5gb.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 11:17 AM   #6
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How is the installer on it? After several attempts here the installation kept seeing errors. The last attempt saw an out of partition space error. The root was 1gb with the swap at 2.5gb.
1G is awfully small root partition. I'm not surprised the installer ran out of space. Unless your really streamlining what your installing, odds are you'll need at least 2.5 - 3G.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 12:39 PM   #7
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One step forward two steps back.
I guess this is progress, Zenwalk 2.8 allows Google Earth
to run from normal user account. Zenwalk 3.0 doesn't.
I have to create a launcher using the command "gksu /usr/local/google-earth/googleearth" and then enter my root password.
I have tried installing from my normal user account to no avail.
Any thoughts.

Version 3.0 still won't work with my Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX
USB sound card. No one here or at the Zenwalk support forums
seem to know how to fix or they don't want to help me.
I am about ready to give up on Zenwalk for good. To some of us users sound is important. This is the definition of deal killer. It should work out of box like it does in Ubuntu.

Thanks.

Last edited by frank golden; 09-09-2006 at 12:42 PM.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 12:45 PM   #8
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i sa your message on the forums, but don't know how to help...
I had an audigy 1 internal working great, that's all i can say... sorry :'(
 
Old 09-09-2006, 12:55 PM   #9
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I was under the impression that the minimum size for the root could be 300mb? Do you think 5gb will cover the root? I have plenty of space to use since it is being installed to a secondary drive. The errors seen where from the 2.8 distro. But I'll plan on increasing the root for this.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 01:58 PM   #10
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Code:
Zenwalk 2.8 allows Google Earth
to run from normal user account. Zenwalk 3.0 doesn't.
Regarding how programs should be launched and privileges, the only thing that changed between 2.8 and 3.0 is a more secured sudo configuration. You can try to restore an old 2.8 /etc/sudoers, maybe it will help, but you problem seems more complex and probablu not related to Zenwalk 3.0.
Code:
Version 3.0 still won't work with my Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX
USB sound card. No one here or at the Zenwalk support forums
seem to know how to fix or they don't want to help me.
Please post the result of udevmonitor while pluging the soundcard, and also the result of udevinfo -a -p /sys/.../path_to_the_usb_device

I also need the list of modules that are loaded when the soundcard works on Ubuntu, just in case...

I hope we will find why your device doesn't work

Don't worry, no operating system can detect 100% of the hardware. At least there is less proprietary drivers to install on Linux than Windows, so life is already nice ?

Edit :

After some search, I found this :
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~dtay/linuxLaptop.shtml

It seems that the Audigy soundcard is designed for MS Windows. Google finds a lot of discussions about this card not working on Suse, Ubuntu, Mandriva, ... : good new : you're not alone !

JP

Last edited by jpgu; 09-09-2006 at 02:11 PM.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 02:07 PM   #11
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Well Something weird happened when I upgraded from 2.8 to 3. So I decided to download the 3.0. The new installer is nice. I do like how setup just kicks off. Install went really smooth for me. I like the way xfce looks and the fact that I got even more backgrounds to choose from.


Frank golden I have not seen your question asked here. Also have you ever stopped to think that it may be how you asked the question that turned people away. Remeber these forums are filled with volunteers. No one is paid here.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 02:37 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpgu
Code:
Zenwalk 2.8 allows Google Earth
to run from normal user account. Zenwalk 3.0 doesn't.
Regarding how programs should be launched and privileges, the only thing that changed between 2.8 and 3.0 is a more secured sudo configuration. You can try to restore an old 2.8 /etc/sudoers, maybe it will help, but you problem seems more complex and probablu not related to Zenwalk 3.0.
Code:
Version 3.0 still won't work with my Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX
USB sound card. No one here or at the Zenwalk support forums
seem to know how to fix or they don't want to help me.
Please post the result of udevmonitor while pluging the soundcard, and also the result of udevinfo -a -p /sys/.../path_to_the_usb_device

I also need the list of modules that are loaded when the soundcard works on Ubuntu, just in case...

I hope we will find why your device doesn't work

Don't worry, no operating system can detect 100% of the hardware. At least there is less proprietary drivers to install on Linux than Windows, so life is already nice ?

Edit :

After some search, I found this :
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~dtay/linuxLaptop.shtml

It seems that the Audigy soundcard is designed for MS Windows. Google finds a lot of discussions about this card not working on Suse, Ubuntu, Mandriva, ... : good new : you're not alone !

JP
Results of udevmonitor while plugging in sound card.

Code:
root[frankgolden]# udevmonitor
udevmonitor prints the received event from the kernel [UEVENT]
and the event which udev sends out after rule processing [UDEV]

UEVENT[1157830498.830415] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830498.830450] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830498.830460] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830498.830469] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830498.830478] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.12
UEVENT[1157830499.077588] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830499.077614] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830499.077623] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830499.077631] remove@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.12
UEVENT[1157830499.077640] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830501.387549] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830501.387779] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830501.417094] add@/class/sound/hwC1D0
UEVENT[1157830501.417135] add@/class/sound/pcmC1D0p
UEVENT[1157830501.417149] add@/class/sound/pcmC1D0c
UEVENT[1157830501.417233] add@/class/sound/dsp1
UEVENT[1157830501.417250] add@/class/sound/audio1
UEVENT[1157830501.417263] add@/class/sound/controlC1
UEVENT[1157830501.417277] add@/class/sound/mixer1
UEVENT[1157830501.417720] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830501.417745] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830501.417780] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.13
 
Old 09-09-2006, 02:41 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpgu
Code:
Zenwalk 2.8 allows Google Earth
to run from normal user account. Zenwalk 3.0 doesn't.
Regarding how programs should be launched and privileges, the only thing that changed between 2.8 and 3.0 is a more secured sudo configuration. You can try to restore an old 2.8 /etc/sudoers, maybe it will help, but you problem seems more complex and probablu not related to Zenwalk 3.0.
Code:
Version 3.0 still won't work with my Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 NX
USB sound card. No one here or at the Zenwalk support forums
seem to know how to fix or they don't want to help me.
Please post the result of udevmonitor while pluging the soundcard, and also the result of udevinfo -a -p /sys/.../path_to_the_usb_device

I also need the list of modules that are loaded when the soundcard works on Ubuntu, just in case...

I hope we will find why your device doesn't work

Don't worry, no operating system can detect 100% of the hardware. At least there is less proprietary drivers to install on Linux than Windows, so life is already nice ?

Edit :

After some search, I found this :
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~dtay/linuxLaptop.shtml

It seems that the Audigy soundcard is designed for MS Windows. Google finds a lot of discussions about this card not working on Suse, Ubuntu, Mandriva, ... : good new : you're not alone !

JP
Results of udevmonitor while plugging in sound card.

Code:
root[frankgolden]# udevmonitor
udevmonitor prints the received event from the kernel [UEVENT]
and the event which udev sends out after rule processing [UDEV]

UEVENT[1157830498.830415] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830498.830450] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830498.830460] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830498.830469] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830498.830478] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.12
UEVENT[1157830499.077588] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830499.077614] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830499.077623] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1 /1-2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830499.077631] remove@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.12
UEVENT[1157830499.077640] remove@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830501.387549] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1
UEVENT[1157830501.387779] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.0
UEVENT[1157830501.417094] add@/class/sound/hwC1D0
UEVENT[1157830501.417135] add@/class/sound/pcmC1D0p
UEVENT[1157830501.417149] add@/class/sound/pcmC1D0c
UEVENT[1157830501.417233] add@/class/sound/dsp1
UEVENT[1157830501.417250] add@/class/sound/audio1
UEVENT[1157830501.417263] add@/class/sound/controlC1
UEVENT[1157830501.417277] add@/class/sound/mixer1
UEVENT[1157830501.417720] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.1
UEVENT[1157830501.417745] add@/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1- 2.1:1.2
UEVENT[1157830501.417780] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev1.13
The second command
Code:
frankgolden[~]$ su
Password:
root[frankgolden]# udevinfo -a -p /sys/.../path_to_the_usb_device

Udevinfo starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
and the attributes from one single parent device.

root[frankgolden]#
Sorry for the double post here clicked the wrong button or something.
Anyway regards the aeticle you mentioned this sound card has worked
flawlessly in Ubuntu since the Breezy days. It should work in Zenwalk.
What files do you want from my Ubuntu install exactly.

I don't think the results for the second command are what you want.
I don't know what the last part of the command wants for info.

Last edited by frank golden; 09-09-2006 at 02:50 PM.
 
Old 09-09-2006, 09:56 PM   #14
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Do you think 5gb will cover the root? I have plenty of space to use since it is being installed to a secondary drive. The errors seen where from the 2.8 distro. But I'll plan on increasing the root for this.
My /root is 8G but I'm only using 4G, so you'll probably be fine with 5.
 
Old 09-10-2006, 02:24 AM   #15
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My /root is 8G but I'm only using 4G, so you'll probably be fine with 5.
With 2.8 or 3.0 which is about to be installed with a custom multiboot system 5gb is not even noticable with twin 250gb hard drives. The two questions remaining would be:

1) The minimum recommended size for a swap partition especially if it is to shared with another distro?

2) Can the swap partition be accessed for storing files or running programs or is it strictly reserved for virtual memory?

Thanks for the reply by the way. On another forum many will ask questions like the second one seen here. Now that 3.0 is here will it update 2.8 or will it need a separate installation? is another type of common question that will be asked.

Many lately have been asking if Linux supports gaming including Zenwalk as of late. How to set up your internet connection will be another to add to an evergrowing list for wireless as well as hard wired dsl.
 
  


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