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Old 09-17-2009, 12:16 PM   #1
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upgrade function disabled in icedove and iceweasel


I just installed Zenwalk, and I'm liking this distro (previously played with Slackware 12.2, but that ended in disaster).

I noticed that I can't upgrade Firefox or Thunderbird, as the upgrade functions are disabled. I was able to install and make default the new version of Firefox (3.5.3), and I believe I can do the same with Thunderbird, but I would prefer to learn how to re-enable the upgrade function.

Can anyone help me?
 
Old 09-17-2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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The distro-provided packages disable the function because it's designed for updating from the mozilla project directly, and this would conflict with the distro's package updates. Your package manager wouldn't be able to keep track of files changed that way.

Your only choices are to:

a) Use the firefox/iceweasel & thunderbird/icedove packages provided by your distro and update them only through your package manager.

or

b) Download and install the official firefox and thunderbird directly from the mozilla project, and manage them separately from your package manager.
 
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For educational purposes:

You can re-enable the manual updating method if you really want to, but David's advice above is correct; your package manager will most likely not be able to keep track of changed files & folders, so if/when you do decide to use the package manager again on one of these packages, you're bound to have leftovers or overlaps, leading to a small mess. Or, use David's method (B) above: remove the packages and download them right from mozilla, and manage them separately.

The educational part: To re-enable the update-ability (on Firefox for sure, but I've never used TBird) open the about:config page and enter app.update into the search bar. You should see (or you can create) the entries app.update.enabled and app.update.auto which both deal with automatic or manual updates of the browser(s). A setting of "false" disables updates.

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Old 09-17-2009, 06:18 PM   #4
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Thanks, guys!

If it will cause trouble with my package manager, I should probably leave them alone. I was able to install the updated Firefox, like I said, and make it default so I don't have to use the older version. I will try to do the same with Thunderbird and just cease using the bundled versions.

I don't get along well with a package manager. I prefer to do everything from command line. This solution suits me. I was only wondering if it could be done, and how.

I appreciate your time!
 
Old 09-17-2009, 07:35 PM   #5
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Hmmm...

For educational purposes, I would like to locate and see what you were talking about, but have to admit I'm lost.

You said open the about:config page and I could follow the directions from there *IF* I knew where to find that silly thing.

Remember, please, that you are talking to a newbie, here. I understand the concepts you are discussing, but need direction on how to find the material you referenced.

Thanks again!
 
Old 09-18-2009, 12:57 AM   #6
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"about:config" is a special built-in web page for accessing the program's internal settings. Simply type it into your location bar and hit enter, and you'll get a page full of settings you can alter. You probably shouldn't play with it too much unless you don't know what you're doing though.

In thunderbird you access it from the "preferences > advanced > config editor".

It's also possible to permanently set such settings by placing an entry in the user.js file found in your profile.
 
Old 09-18-2009, 08:01 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David the H. View Post
"about:config" is a special built-in web page for accessing the program's internal settings. Simply type it into your location bar and hit enter, and you'll get a page full of settings you can alter. You probably shouldn't play with it too much unless you don't know what you're doing though.

In thunderbird you access it from the "preferences > advanced > config editor".

It's also possible to permanently set such settings by placing an entry in the user.js file found in your profile.
Additionally (further educational info) on Firefox at least, there's also the about:plugins page, where you can see information about all the plugins you may have installed into the browser.

There might be more about: pages but off top of my head, I can't think of any others.

Sasha
 
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about:
about:blank
about:buildconfig
about:cache
about:config
about:credits
about:license
about:mozilla
about:plugins

I believe that's all of them.
There used to also be about:kitchensink, but it's gone now.
 
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WOW!! Who knew

Thanks David!
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