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Old 01-28-2014, 03:05 PM   #1
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ubuntu software center not accepting reviews


I have an account, am recognized, yet every single review I write fails.

example:

Failed to submit review
Server's response was:
: package mint-artwork-gnome not in linuxmint maya for maya

It clearly IS in linuxmint for maya.
this same error happens on everu review I have tried to submit.
The FAQ on the USC page does not address this error.

any help appreciated...
 
Old 01-28-2014, 03:07 PM   #2
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I have an account, am recognized, yet every single review I write fails.

example:

Failed to submit review
Server's response was:
: package mint-artwork-gnome not in linuxmint maya for maya

It clearly IS in linuxmint for maya.
this same error happens on everu review I have tried to submit.
The FAQ on the USC page does not address this error.

any help appreciated...
Another:
package mint-backgrounds-maya-extra not in linuxmint maya for maya
 
Old 01-28-2014, 07:14 PM   #3
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You are using Ubuntu?
 
Old 01-28-2014, 07:58 PM   #4
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You are using Ubuntu?
No. Mint. Are you saying that you cannot write a review for software you download and use IF you are not running Ubuntu?

Note that they offer mint items, see my second post...
 
Old 01-29-2014, 03:08 AM   #5
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I think you are going to have trouble posting reviews on the Ubuntu Software Center if you are using the LM Software Center.

Linux Mint is not part of the Ubuntu family at all. It is a long time respin of Ubuntu.

I have never used LM. I have used LMDE. I helped test the Ubuntu Software Center and have avoided it very successfully since.

However, you will need some sort of account with LM to post any reviews to the LM Software Center.

Ubuntu doesn't carry packages for LM. For all I know there could be LM packages that are in the Ubuntu repos. They will not be for any LM release. They will be for an Ubuntu release.
 
Old 01-29-2014, 03:50 AM   #6
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I think you are going to have trouble posting reviews on the Ubuntu Software Center if you are using the LM Software Center.

Linux Mint is not part of the Ubuntu family at all. It is a long time respin of Ubuntu.

I have never used LM. I have used LMDE. I helped test the Ubuntu Software Center and have avoided it very successfully since.

However, you will need some sort of account with LM to post any reviews to the LM Software Center.

Ubuntu doesn't carry packages for LM. For all I know there could be LM packages that are in the Ubuntu repos. They will not be for any LM release. They will be for an Ubuntu release.
I am not doing this from the LM Software Center, I am doing this from the Ubuntu software Center.
I have an Ubuntu account account, it all works perfectly except for accepting a submitted review, i.e. it opens, logs me in, and provides the review form to be filled in...

So package mint-backgrounds-maya-extra is an Ubuntu package? Not a Mint package? Wow...
 
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No mint-backgrounds-maya-extra is not an Ubuntu package. It is a mint package. Therefore you are not going to be posting a review of that package on the Ubuntu Software Center.

Does Linux Mint even have reviews on their Software Center? If they do you will need an account with Linux Mint to post reviews.

You could install Debian and then the proprietary AMD video driver package witch is fglrx-driver through the Software Center (available in the repo but not installed by default in any Debian release as it doesn't show up on the Pop Con list as popular). You could then go to the Ubuntu Software center and try to post a review there. Not going to work.

First Ubuntu renames the "fglrx-driver" package they get from Debian to "fglrx" so there is no fglrx-driver package at all. Second, if there was such a package in the Ubuntu Software Center it would not be for, say, Wheezy (Debian 7).

Why on earth would Ubuntu Software Center, an application I think is absolutely ridiculous, be silly enough to post reviews of packages from other distros? This makes no sense what so ever.

Your package management system runs on what is in the /etc/sources.list being a Debian based distro. Actually LM is an Ubuntu based distro - Ubuntu being based on Debian. Point is it uses the APT package management system.

Debian uses, shockingly, Debian repos. They are what are listed in the sources.list. There is a list of packages available for the version of Debian that is being used in the file system of the installed OS.

Ubuntu, surprisingly, uses the Ubuntu repos. The sources.list doesn't resemble the Debian sources.list in the least. But it does the same thing.

Linux Mint uses Linux Mint sources.lists.

Sample Debian Sid sources.list;
Code:
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
## deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
That is all there is to a Debian Unstable sources.list. This is the base, by the way, of all non LTS Ubuntu versions.

You can check;
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_S...d_Repositories

For a sample of the Ubuntu 13.10 sources.list. You will need to scroll down the page a ways.

You can;
Code:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
For your Linux Mint sources.list.

You will see there is no direct connection.

When you try to use an Ubuntu review online tool you are going to an Ubuntu site. The Ubuntu Software Center is going to have lists, from the repos, of Ubuntu packages available. It is not going to, can't, have lists for Debian or Linux Mint or any other distro on using the Ubuntu repos. Because it will be getting lists from all supported versions of Canonical releases (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and so forth). Those are the packages that they support and the only packages that the Ubuntu Software Center has.

Linux Mint started out several years ago because they thought the Ubuntu family of OS's were a bit too unstable. They pick through the available packages in the Ubuntu repos and put together what they feel is a more stable group of packages. They are usually not as new as the ones available in the Ubuntu repos. They also develop packages of their own. Things like the LM specific artwork packages.

Those packages even have the LM logo on them. This is not something Ubuntu, with their very own logo, is likely to have in their repos.

LM is also the bunch that developed the Cinnamon Desktop Environment. This may be in the Ubuntu repos. It is open source and GPL licensed.

LM also supports and contributes to the Mate Desktop Environment. Could be in the Ubuntu repos too.

Even if Cinnamon and Mate are in the Ubuntu repos the version being used is going to be an Ubuntu version. Even if it is using the exact same name as the LM versions and you somehow got a review into the Ubuntu Software Center it would not be a review of exactly the same package.

For one thing, all .deb packages include an install script. This script is distro specific. Therefore anything you have to say about the installation process of an LM Cinnamon package is in no way cogent to the install process of an Ubuntu Cinnamon package.

You may be interested in this;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool

Debian has excellent documentation on APT. It is a Debian invention. They know it very well.

Ubuntu undoubtedly has documentation on APT.

LM, I am sure, also has information on APT in their wiki.

Software Center is simply one of many tools for using the APT system. One of the rather clumsy ones. It does, or did, have a pretty nice search function the last time I looked at it which would have been in Ubuntu 10.04-testing.

I did continue to test Ubuntu development releases up through 12.04 but, among other things, Software Center was one of the first things removed as massive bloat so I have not looked at it since April of 2010 except briefly.

It is however, like Synaptic, a front end for apt-get which in turn is a front end of dpkg which is, in all Debian derived respins, the heart of the current configuration of APT.
 
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We never need to guess in Linux, because Linux is open source. Go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and http://packages.linuxmint.com and do a search for "mint-artwork-gnome."

Now you have done the research and know for a fact that mint-artwork-gnome is a Mint package, not an Ubuntu package. That is probably the reason you cannot review it in the Ubuntu Software Center.
 
  


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