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Old 06-22-2014, 01:10 PM   #1
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Ubuntu One Terms of Service Missing / Overridden


I hope this post won't be a problem, as I can't find a way to make an anonymous post over in their forums. I was going to create an Ubuntu One account to log into their forums to discuss some issues I have been having, and I wanted to check the terms out, but https://one.ubuntu.com/terms/ is forwarding to https://one.ubuntu.com/shutdown/ which appears to apply only to Ubuntu One file storage or something, and not the SSO accounts. https://one.ubuntu.com/privacy/ is also leading there. Even if the shutdown applied to everything, this would lead me to believe that the forwarding is accidental. Someone may want to post in their forums referencing this issue. In the meantime, I'm not creating an account there because I'm not sure what they require when they say "Please tell us your name".
 
Old 06-22-2014, 02:33 PM   #2
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Interesting post.

I would be very careful about all that too. Seems very poorly managed, no shock to me, but does indicate some very serious problems with the entire Canonical system.

You really are probably better off not to get involved with that outfit at all.

I like the title of the thread. Did you, prehaps, mean "over written"?

As a horseman, ranch hands normally are, I like the idea of over ridden quite a lot.

When I was using Ubuntu I came to feel I was being over ridden by Canonical so this may be exactly the term you meant.
 
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According to this, Ubuntu One's shutdown will not affect Ubuntu SSO.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/inde...t-2221215.html

It leads to this Canonical blog post, which says the same thing:

http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02...file-services/

Of course, that was two months ago.

I would think that OP's best bet is to direct his inquiry to Ubuntu/Canonical.

Canonical has done a lot of good for Linux, but, remember, Canonical's long-term goal is to make a profit. They haven't so far and, as far as I can tell, they have lately started to flail about, what with referring to the kernel as the "Ubuntu" kernel, perpetrating Unity, then MIR, and now this.

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Old 06-23-2014, 05:08 AM   #4
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Interesting post.

I would be very careful about all that too. Seems very poorly managed, no shock to me, but does indicate some very serious problems with the entire Canonical system.

You really are probably better off not to get involved with that outfit at all.

I like the title of the thread. Did you, prehaps, mean "over written"?

As a horseman, ranch hands normally are, I like the idea of over ridden quite a lot.

When I was using Ubuntu I came to feel I was being over ridden by Canonical so this may be exactly the term you meant.
Nice. No, I meant overridden. Overridden as in the past tense of override. I don't think they overwrote a path called /terms, I think they overrode a redirect called /terms, perhaps by placing a catch-all rule above individual rules. I'm not incredibly familiar with web page design in the new millennium (I designed basic pages in basic HTML in the 90s), but I am familiar with ACLs and the like, and this behavior seems like something more likely to be caused by having a set of rules in the wrong order than by someone actually overwriting legal documents.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 05:17 AM   #5
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According to this, Ubuntu One's shutdown will not affect Ubuntu SSO.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/inde...t-2221215.html

It leads to this Canonical blog post, which says the same thing:

http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02...file-services/

Of course, that was two months ago.

I would think that OP's best bet is to direct his inquiry to Ubuntu/Canonical.

Canonical has done a lot of good for Linux, but, remember, Canonical's long-term goal is to make a profit. They haven't so far and, as far as I can tell, they have lately started to flail about, what with referring to the kernel as the "Ubuntu" kernel, perpetrating Unity, then MIR, and now this.
I'm pretty sure the other services will continue. I'm not so sure how to contact Canonical. My thinking in posting here is that someone with an account might see it and be so kind as to post over there. I suppose I should point out I'm not a fan of third party SSO, so going over to Ask Ubuntu or Ubuntu Discourse in order to bring this issue up doesn't really suit me. Moreover, the Canonical website doesn't appear to have contact information, either. I could follow the "report a bug on our website" link on canonical.com, but that seems like a long shot.
 
Old 06-23-2014, 05:20 AM   #6
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I hadn't looked at the bottom of Ubuntu.com. Looks like I have multiple ways to contact them. Hopefully going that route will make more sense. It certainly wouldn't hurt if someone who is a member of both forums posted there, because I may get a response from Canonical stating that I need to contact someone else, and that may not be a quick response.

ETA: I e-mailed Canonical legal. I'll try to remember to update this thread / mark it solved if I hear back from them. Alternatively, if someone else confirms they posted to ubuntuforums and got some kind of helpful response, I'll also certainly mark the thread solved.

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Old 06-23-2014, 05:12 PM   #7
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I e-mailed legal@ and got a response. The response redirected me to http://www.ubuntu.com/legal and https://login.ubuntu.com/ (where I originally encountered this issue). However, further investigation reveals that the originally mentioned problematic URLs have been fixed.
 
  


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