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Old 06-25-2005, 03:39 PM   #1
khwang
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Trying to install 5.04 on an old Dell laptop


OK, time to flame the n00b.

I've got the packaged 2-cd set from Ubuntu, version 5.04 for Intel x86.

I tried the 'install' CD on a Dell Latitude c600 (PIII-750MHz, 256 MB RAM), and during the installation it failed because it couldn't find a file called lib 0.8 or something.

Tried the CD ROM diagnostic, and it didn't find any problems. Tried the installation twice, no dice.

I put in the 'live' CD, and it worked fine!

Do you think it's just a problem with that particular copy of the CD, or do I need to download some more files from the internet?

I checked the Ubuntu bugzilla site, couldn't find my bug there.

Thanks for your help. I can't wait to have this fully installed.
 
Old 06-26-2005, 09:23 AM   #2
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Hey!!! I've had a similar problem with my copies too. Those are not home burned copies either, I've ordered them from Ubuntu's homepage. I think it's a bug in Ubuntu itself.

Weird thing is, it worked without a problem in other 2 machines, but not in my newest one. I think something funny is going on with DMA in Ubuntu, so it fails to read the CD correctly. I've managed to install Ubuntu though. Don't ask me how, but after trying and failing a lot of times, it has magically passed the point where it was failing to copy the files from the CD to the HD.

Not happy with that, I've formated the machine and tried to install again. Same problem, same fix. So it's definitely a Ubuntu bug.

If you have time, keep trying till you pass through the point where it fails. It's all I can recommend you :\
 
Old 06-26-2005, 02:13 PM   #3
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Thanks for your response.

I got another copy of the install CD, and that worked fine. So it was just the disc. I noticed a few marks on the surface, but I didn't think it was a big deal at the time.

Next question: I experience some sound stuttering, for example when I start up my computer and it plays the intro music. Do I have to get an updated driver for my sound card? Or is it a RAM issue?
 
Old 06-26-2005, 03:10 PM   #4
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I'm glad you got it fixed. I hope you will like Ubuntu too, I've found it a very pleasant distro to work with. ^_^.

Now, about your question I would say that it could be the driver for your sound card since your amount of RAM is quite fine for Ubuntu. Try double clicking on the "sound icon" on your task bar. It will open a window very similar to "Windows sound control". On that window, click on "File >> Change Device" and choose another device if available and see if that helps you.

If that does not help, take a look at Ubuntu Guide, it has some great tips about general sound, alsa and Gnome. In fact, bookmark that link, it helped me out a lot in doing things by "The Ubuntu Way" =)

Regards!
 
Old 06-26-2005, 04:45 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Megaman X

Try double clicking on the "sound icon" on your task bar. It will open a window very similar to "Windows sound control". On that window, click on "File >> Change Device" and choose another device if available and see if that helps you.
OK, I changed it from an OSS mixer to an ALSA mixer. I'll see if that helps.
 
Old 06-27-2005, 08:25 AM   #6
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Not really, heh.

Next question: should I install Apache or Apache2? They're both listed in the synaptic package manager (spm).

edit: the first time I tried to install Apache using the spm, I got warning messages that I was about to install unauthenticated files and the installation did not work. I realized that I had to put the Ubuntu install CD in the drive first. Once I put the CD in, I was able to install Apache2 no problem. I wish the spm would add that message, it would have saved me some time.

Last edited by khwang; 06-27-2005 at 09:44 AM.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 03:10 AM   #7
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Hmmm, still about your sound... It could also be that your sound server is messing up things. Try turning it off by going into "System >> Preferences >> Sound" and uncheck the checkbox where it stands "Enable Sound Server at start up". That could help, but I've also noted that rhythmbox stops working if the Sound server is disabled. Well, give it a whirl later and see how it goes ^_^.

About Apache, I don't think it really matters. You could read this as entertainment:

http://ilia.ws/index.php?url=archive...view%5D=linear

and go to apache.org to see the differences between apache 1x and 2x and which one suits you. Bottom line is, if all you want is a homepage, both with do just that and very well =)

Regards!
 
Old 06-28-2005, 06:51 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Megaman X
Hmmm, still about your sound... It could also be that your sound server is messing up things. Try turning it off by going into "System >> Preferences >> Sound" and uncheck the checkbox where it stands "Enable Sound Server at start up".

and go to apache.org to see the differences between apache 1x and 2x and which one suits you. Bottom line is, if all you want is a homepage, both with do just that and very well =)
OK, I'll try the sound server thing. It's the same audio stuttering problem I had when Half-Life 2 came out, so it brings back bad memories.

I also have a problem with my mouse cursor flying around the screen unexpectedly. It's just a regular Logitech 2-button mouse, but it's behaving like when I had an optical mouse on a non-optical mousepad. It would just go out of control for no reason.

Third, the video quality seems a bit blurry. Text on the screen is not sharp, so I'm wondering if there's a problem rendering fonts.

All of the above issues sound like I need to install new drivers. I have an old Dell laptop, with whatever video card it came with (an ATI rage mobility thing) and sound card (no idea).

I did install Apache2, and now I'm wrestling with getting started in My SQL.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 07:22 AM   #9
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the video quality seems a bit blurry. Text on the screen is not sharp, so I'm wondering if there's a problem rendering fonts.
Hmmmm. Maybe the text is a little blurry because you are not using the right fonts or something. I thought Ubuntu looked nice out of the box, but I remember installing .ttf font's in Slackware a while ago. You might want to check this link out:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...lackware+fonts

It's also described at Ubuntu's guide a way to install extra-fonts. Here:

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts

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I also have a problem with my mouse cursor flying around the screen unexpectedly. It's just a regular Logitech 2-button mouse, but it's behaving like when I had an optical mouse on a non-optical mousepad. It would just go out of control for no reason.
I'm not quite sure. I'm using an optical mouse without a pad. Never found a pad good enough to use with it and I got tired of cleaning the track ball on old mice, so between cleaning the trackball all the time and no mouse pad at all, I choose no mouse pad at all ^_^. Try playing around under your System >> Preferences >> Mouse. It could also happen that Ubuntu had erratically detected your mouse. You can manually edit it at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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I did install Apache2, and now I'm wrestling with getting started in My SQL.
I'm not sure if you are having problems installing LAMP or how to use it, so I will answer both possibilities =). This will help you getting apache, php and mysql installed in Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver

I would even like to take the liberty to recommend you a few tutorials that I've used to learn the basics of PHP and MySQL ^_^

PHP:
http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey...tutorial4.html

MySQL:
http://www.analysisandsolutions.com/code/mybasic.htm

They are a bit dated, but should get you started ^_^.

Good luck!
 
Old 06-28-2005, 02:01 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info! My comments below:

Quote:
Originally posted by Megaman X

It's also described at Ubuntu's guide a way to install extra-fonts. Here:
http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts
Yes, I'm experiencing exactly what he described: in Firefox, it looks like the font is coming off a bleeding ink pen. If I were more hardcore, I should probably switch to Lynx.

Code:
sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
I used synaptic package manager, do I still have to type that in the command line?

Quote:
Try playing around under your System >> Preferences >> Mouse. It could also happen that Ubuntu had erratically detected your mouse. You can manually edit it at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
What does "Drag and Drop" threshold mean?

In xorg.conf, I see a small section about my mouse, but I really don't know what to change.

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

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I'm not sure if you are having problems installing LAMP or how to use it
what is LAMP?

So far, I've been able to set a password for the root user in mysql, create a database, create a new user that can access that database, login as that user, and create a table. And add one entry. \o/
A couple of years back, I did read some stuff on the web about SELECT statements, so I'll just refresh my memory. Then figure out how PHP and Perl perform the operations to manipulate the database.

yes, I've been using that guide. Very useful.


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I would even like to take the liberty to recommend you a few tutorials that I've used to learn the basics of PHP and MySQL ^_^

PHP:
http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey...tutorial4.html

MySQL:
http://www.analysisandsolutions.com/code/mybasic.htm

They are a bit dated, but should get you started ^_^.
Thanks for the links! I've got a huge MySQL book by Paul DuBois, and I also have his book about using Perl and MySQL for the web. I'll check the PHP tutorial website, and at some point I'll pick up the famous PHP/MySQL book by Welling and Thomson.
 
Old 11-05-2005, 09:55 PM   #11
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Dell Latitude C600

Hi There,


I have a Dell laptop, its a Dell Latitude C600. I would like to tweak the video to the max, so that I may get best video possible. When I run (from the command line) glxgears, I can get a very high frame rate. So I guess what I am asking is what must be done to tweak the video for the best performance, and simply just great video. I am not sure if I have to recompile the kernel for the best video and/or tweak the info in the Xorg and XFR86Config. I had another system before where I tweak the XFR86 and added the chipID. But as for the Dell Latitude C600, the video card on this laptop is ATI Rage 128 Mobilty. So can someone be so kind as to provide me with good information as to what must be done? I appreciate it very much. Thank you.


Al_Khidr,
 
  


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