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Old 10-13-2005, 08:32 PM   #1
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safe to dist-upgrade yet?


is it safe to dist-upgrade to breezy yet? has anybody done is successfully yet? i'm itching to do it, yet i can't help but remember what happened i tried to do it (x complete broke so i had to reinstall). any words of consolation?
 
Old 10-13-2005, 10:51 PM   #2
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it seems to be pretty much "safe" to upgrade but personally i would download the release version and burn it to cd and install it that way for a few reasons:
1. you will have a disk incase ubuntu doesnt boot
2. the disk ensures saftey
3. if you are new to linux than the disk makes it much easier to install it if you ever need to

if those reasons arent enough i say try it and if it works i would still go and prder the cds or burn them.

to upgrade see www.ubuntuguide.org pretty much change all you repos from hoary to breezy than apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade im not sure if you can use both commands at same time with the && code.
 
Old 10-13-2005, 11:03 PM   #3
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i alreayd have breezy installed on my pc, along with hoary and winxp. however, i haven't configured it much and doing so would take a lot of time, that's why i want to dist-upgrade my hoary partition.

how many people have dist-upgraded successfully?
 
Old 10-14-2005, 08:27 AM   #4
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:25 AM   #5
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Originally posted by jnev
i alreayd have breezy installed on my pc, along with hoary and winxp. however, i haven't configured it much and doing so would take a lot of time, that's why i want to dist-upgrade my hoary partition.

how many people have dist-upgraded successfully?
I ran apt-get dist-upgrade this morning and didn't notice any differences or changes really. I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list yet to change instances of hoary to breezy yet.
 
Old 10-14-2005, 09:30 AM   #6
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I ran apt-get dist-upgrade this morning and didn't notice any differences or changes really. I haven't edited /etc/apt/sources.list yet to change instances of hoary to breezy yet.
you have to change them to breezy first before you do apt-get dist-upgrade there are some subtle differences like open office for breezy is 2.0 things like that mainly software differences and better support for drivers. some visual differences like the boot screen isnt black with white text its black with brown text. but if you dont change the sources list to breezy than dist-upgrade wont bring you to breezy
 
Old 10-14-2005, 05:12 PM   #7
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ok well i started the dist-upgrade this morning. it's been downloading for about 7 hours and it's still at only 66% finished. the transfer rates are only about 23kb/s
 
Old 10-14-2005, 06:24 PM   #8
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I'm on that way also, Jnev

I'm upgrading to Breeze and I started two hours ago, it seems though that I'll have to wait some time, it's on 15% and the average transfer rate is 15 kb/s

one thing I hope is that the process finish without errors

for now, just wait...
 
Old 10-14-2005, 07:02 PM   #9
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Nothing like a dist upgrade or apt-get upgrade to crash a system. Good luck!
 
Old 10-14-2005, 07:51 PM   #10
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i still stand by downloading and instlling fresh and it may get done faster depending on the ftp or http or bittorrent server you use doing apt-get dist-upgrade you dont get the choice and fair_is_fair is right it can crash your system and the simplest answer for why it does is cause it does the packages can get corrupt and you never know if it will leave a package on that should be taken off.

my advice stays "burn your work to cd or floppy that you want to keep and burn the iso image and install from cd its normally faster/more secure".

Last edited by boxerboy; 10-14-2005 at 07:52 PM.
 
Old 10-14-2005, 08:55 PM   #11
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You're right Boxerboy, it's better to use the CD, but there are some points that made me lean toward dist-upgrade:

1. In order to do a fresh install, you must have a coherent hard disk partition, so that when reinstalling you don't loose your precious data. in my case I have a separate partition for /home, so not problem here.

2. For the last months I've been customizing Ubuntu, by installing packages that were not in the CD, I even have Kubuntu so at boot I can choose between Gnome and Kde and others, taken that into consideration I'd have to do all over again and for me it seems a lot of work.

3. I want to give apt-get a safe try on dealing with this massive upgrading (1100 packages upgraded, 426 new installed, 8 kept) as far I remember, about 1100 Mb of downloading, it's massive but I want to test apt-get to the edge, will it pass the test?

4. I guess this is the right path that we should go each six months, just upgrading... So if there are problems I'll like to contribute to make it better so this can be the right way in the future specially in the case that more Ubuntu users will be in this situation in six months time...

About five more hours to go...
 
Old 10-14-2005, 09:19 PM   #12
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i understand the work to making linux just the way you want it and than fresh install losing it all ive done it countless number of times so far and im still using the colony 3 cd i burned so uppdates are alot. but i just wanted to let you know that dist-upgrade may have many issues do to it not really being successful with alot of ppl.
 
Old 10-14-2005, 11:08 PM   #13
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Totally agree boxerboy, it's not the safest way to go. Still I'm willing to take some risks here, and as fair_is_fair and you noted there's a high risk that some problems will arise, I guess I'm preparing myself to this scenario, anyway this experience will be very important in my objective to learn more about Linux, the most direct way of learning is fixing problems, specially when you have Hoary running well...
 
Old 10-15-2005, 05:34 AM   #14
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i still stand by downloading and instlling fresh and it may get done faster depending on the ftp or http or bittorrent server you use doing apt-get dist-upgrade you dont get the choice and fair_is_fair is right it can crash your system and the simplest answer for why it does is cause it does the packages can get corrupt and you never know if it will leave a package on that should be taken off.

my advice stays "burn your work to cd or floppy that you want to keep and burn the iso image and install from cd its normally faster/more secure".
To me it's not upgrading or installing from scratch, I just download and burn the install CD and do an
apt-get dist-upgrade.

If it goes bork, oh well, I try to fix it and if all else fails I can always do a fresh install.
 
Old 10-15-2005, 10:06 AM   #15
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I guess I'm really old fashioned, but, I always do a clean install. It took two days to get my Ubuntu work stations finished, I've got two shiny 5.10 stations now. The transfer rate was picking up a bit yesterday.
I like the fact that Ubuntu gives us the choice of a clean install or apt-get dist-upgrade.
 
  


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