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Old 05-01-2008, 05:14 PM   #31
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While Debian was having intense internal debates about whether or not it's okay to pay Debian developers, Shuttleworth was pouring money into the pockets of developers.
You bring up a great point about the money, some people will switch for the paycheck. It makes me wonder how long Shuttleworth can keep sinking cash into this project. It won't last forever.

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If Ubuntu switched to base off of some other distro, then that would more or less force all of the package managers who currently support both Ubuntu and Debian to choose a side. That's not going to be an immediately fatal blow, but it would hurt. And while the Debian project wrings hands over how to attract developers, Shuttleworth has deep pockets and no qualms with using them.
Again, the money won't last forever. Agreed, he can't afford to switch away.

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It's simply not the case that Ubuntu NEEDs Debian. But it is the case that breaking off entirely from Debian would cost a heck of a lot more, and the bottom line for Canonical is that it's not financially worth it.
Yep, agreed.

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The current status quo is peaceful coexistence, but Ubuntu holds a distinct edge in attracting new developers into its community and keeping them happy (happier, at least).
All good points. True, there are some Debian developers adding/moving to Ubuntu. I'm sure there are also some Ubuntu developers taking a hard look at Debian, and deciding to support it too. This all seems to happen at a snails pace though. I don't foresee any sudden changes for either distro. I'm optimistic. I'm looking forward to the stable release of Lenny.
 
Old 05-02-2008, 01:35 PM   #32
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In past releases of Linux distrobutions Wacom tablets were only recognized at boot time. I don't know if this has been changed with the kernel used by 8.04. To have the Wacom fuuly functional in Gimp you need change "Preferences"-> "Input Devices"-> "Configure Extended Input Devices..."-> "Devicepad, eraser, cursor & stlus) to "Mode:Screen/Window". Then click the "Save Input Device Settings Now" button.

As to xorg I added the following 4 sections:

[...]

And in Section "ServerLayout" I added the following 4 lines.

[...]
Those are the settings I already have (since Ubuntu 6.06). Up to 7.10 they worked, with 8.04 they don't. And the problem is not Gimp related, but X session. Time to file a bug report?

Thanks for your response.
 
Old 05-02-2008, 02:09 PM   #33
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Those are the settings I already have (since Ubuntu 6.06). Up to 7.10 they worked, with 8.04 they don't. And the problem is not Gimp related, but X session. Time to file a bug report?

Thanks for your response.
All I can really say is works for my Graphire4. I'd consider filing the bug. First step in the Launchpad process will check for similar bugs that in some instances will have workaround. Provide as much information as you can. They need to be able to duplicate your symptoms to discover a fix.
 
Old 05-02-2008, 03:46 PM   #34
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I initially tried a dist-upgrade from Kubuntu Gusty to Hardy. The upgrade broke a fair amount on my system, more so than the upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy. I half expected this, however, since I manually editted half of my config files, and installed software from 3rd party repos etc. A major breakage happened with the Nvidia drivers, and try as I might, I couldn't fix it.

After running a clean install Kubuntu Hardy is almost flawless. My default resolution wasn't detected, and my keyboard calculator button causes a KDE crash (an already reported bug) but apart from that, it's flawless. Compiz is much better supported this time around as well.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 04:23 AM   #35
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I just installed 8.04 and everything went well...
not so well for me: I've a wifi connection with a bcm4318 chip and upgrading my connection has lost. I've tried in any possible way to reactivate it and now I was forced to downgrade to gutsy again because of this issue.

but a question: there are sensible differces between a very updated version of Gutsy and the newest one? Hardy Heron?

bye
 
Old 05-03-2008, 02:43 PM   #36
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Well, Hardy has Gnome 2.22 and firefox 3 out of the box. Otherwise, no, nothing really spectacular.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 03:27 PM   #37
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not so well for me: I've a wifi connection with a bcm4318 chip and upgrading my connection has lost. I've tried in any possible way to reactivate it and now I was forced to downgrade to gutsy again because of this issue.

but a question: there are sensible differces between a very updated version of Gutsy and the newest one? Hardy Heron?

bye
I did a clean install of 8.04 and found my hardware more directly supported than prior releases of Ubuntu. Each release release has represented an improvement. Even my 1440x900 monitor was automatically configured. I has a mashup of different hardware components. Some of these like a bluetooth USB adapter and my Wacom tablet aren't found on most machines. With 8.04 these were the only devices that required any configuration file editing. In the case of bluetooth I needed to edit rfcomm.conf to recognize my Palm E2's MAC address and channel -- I used the conf file from my 7.10 install. I found configuing Xorg was only required for my Wacom. Considerable work has gone into X11 configuration. I don't have broadcom WiFi although I've set it up for others on prior releases. There are WiFi chip sets that are automatically set up and just work. Intel is one example. A lot of effort has gone into the network manager function of 8.04. If you're struggling will an older release I highly recommend you go to 8.04.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 04:43 PM   #38
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The Firefox browser always opens OFF LINE

Good afternoon Staff and readers,
Three days ago I upgraded from Ubuntu 6.06 to Ubuntu 8.04, (Hearty Heron) using the Ubuntu 6.06 on line connection. The upgrade was flawless and this new distribution is a delight, BUT....

While I can now send/receive email on Verizon.net after adding kmail (SPM) to the default evolution email manager, I still CANNOT access any Internet web addresses using the Firefox browser packaged with the new 8.04 distro. Opening the Firefox at my portal (My Way.com), always produces an error window stating the browser IS NOT ON LINE. I can find no Firefox icon that will permit me to move from off line to on line! I've used Firefox versions for years with several Linux distros and Windows XP and have never seen this happen.

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciate.

Sincerely, langbein

At 14:50, Pacific Daylight Time I found the simple answer: Go to File drop down menu and near the very bottom there is an option named Work Offline; unaware that this option was in that location, when the new Firefox version 3.0b5 was installed with Ubuntu 8.04, the Hearty Heron, the installation AUTOMATICALLY "decided" to check mark this option AS WORKING OFFLINE. Just beware that this simple solution can perplex anyone unaware that you can open the browser offline.
TTFN, langbein

Last edited by langbein; 05-03-2008 at 05:55 PM. Reason: I have solved the offline problem
 
Old 05-16-2008, 07:01 AM   #39
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Lightbulb Graphire problem solved!

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All I can really say is works for my Graphire4. I'd consider filing the bug. First step in the Launchpad process will check for similar bugs that in some instances will have workaround. Provide as much information as you can. They need to be able to duplicate your symptoms to discover a fix.
Found it!
In my ServerLayout I had:
Inputdevice "WacomStylus" "AlwaysCore"

After removing the "AlwaysCore" option everything works as before. (The AlwaysCore has been there for the past two years. I don't know why it was there, nor do I know why it suddenly causes these problems.)
 
Old 05-16-2008, 07:22 AM   #40
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Last evening, I almost broke the good advice that has been given in this and probably other LQ forums. It was about upgrading to the 8.04 version of Ubuntu,Kubuntu,XUbuntu,etc. That is I almost performed an upgrade, but was saved by the amount of time it was going to take.

This was at work where we have a nice, fast connection, and when the 3+ hour upgrade time came back, I dropped back and punted until another time, maybe a month from now.

What was I thinking? My Thinkpad T61 is working, and working well I might add. I did not need to upgrade, but did remember to preserve my /etc directory where I've put in special configs to make sound work, network, special daemons for Informix and so on.

So, I am going to be patient, let the dust settle, and wait for the first round of fixes to take place.
As it turns out, I wound up re-installing 7.10. 8.04 would not install on an older Acer laptop. I tried alternate installer and XUbuntu; the laptop had been running Ubuntu 7.10.

The upgrade on my T61p failed; a full install did not, but the system became unstable after a round of installs and upgrades.

There is an 8.04.1 release three months from 8.04's release date. I might retry a full install after that is out.
 
Old 05-16-2008, 08:56 AM   #41
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I just did my first Ubuntu 8.04 direct install (other was an upgrade). 1 hour from putting the CD in, partitioning (which takes a while), to updating, installing non-free nVidia drivers, to getting online and reading webmail. I'll go on and switch to KDE (probably 4) and do some other tweaking later maybe. But that I found awesome. [computer was my old HP Pavilion 7880, 1.1GHz Athlon, 768MB, 20GB hdd]

Especially after spending an entire day yesterday trying to bootstrap an install using just Knoppix (it balked when I rebooted as it couldn't install some USB thing right, I expect it would of been fine with a non-USB keyboard).

Wish my upgrade had gone half as well as that!

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