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alaios 06-20-2006 05:28 PM

migrate from ubuntu to xubuntu
 
Hi there :) I am using the latest ubuntu.... and i want to migrate to xubuntu in order to save up some system resources. Do u know if it is possible to migrate from one distro to ohter using the synapticf packet manager?

ozar 06-20-2006 05:39 PM

If it were me... I'd do a fresh install of Xubuntu right over Ubuntu. It doesn't take long to install and you'll wind up with a cleaner system. That's just me, though. Others will probably have their own ideas about how to tackle it.

esteeven 06-20-2006 05:42 PM

Well. I think that a simple "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" should give you what you want. You would also get to retain your original Ubuntu (I think --- I haven't tried this!).

xpromisex 06-20-2006 05:48 PM

all you need to do is install the "xubuntu-desktop" package if I am not mistaken. Then choose the "xfce-session" or similar selection from the GDM login manager and you're all set.

Edit: esteeven beat me too it. (And note that I haven't tried this either - but XFCE4 - especially 4.4 - is a great choice)

alaios 06-20-2006 05:52 PM

Thx a ot ... Do u know too what are the major differences betwwen ubuntu and xubuntu? I am asking cause i am runiing ubuntu with xfce:P And i wanna know if xubuntu will release some sustem resources

aysiu 06-20-2006 08:01 PM

Xubuntu is much lighter and faster than Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It will, in fact, "release" system resources.

alaios 06-21-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aysiu
Xubuntu is much lighter and faster than Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It will, in fact, "release" system resources.

Thx a lot are u really really really sure that is lighter ?:) Hehe i ll be really happy if it is

Fireproof4ever 06-29-2006 07:44 PM

How did it work?
 
I am curious how this all turned out. I am wanting to do the same thing. I have an older laptop that ran just fine with Ubuntu 5.10, but is having some difficulty with 6.06. I wanted to go a little lighter with Xubuntu 6.06 and hopefully have the similar functionality. I was hoping ther might be a command I could use vs. a full install, how did apt-get work for you or were you able to do it a different way?

IBall 06-29-2006 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireproof4ever
I am curious how this all turned out. I am wanting to do the same thing. I have an older laptop that ran just fine with Ubuntu 5.10, but is having some difficulty with 6.06. I wanted to go a little lighter with Xubuntu 6.06 and hopefully have the similar functionality. I was hoping ther might be a command I could use vs. a full install, how did apt-get work for you or were you able to do it a different way?

Welcome to LQ!

This will work with no problems. As someone said above, select "xfce-session" from the login screen to get into XFCE.

The major advantage is that you will not lose your documents, or any installed programs. You can still choose Gnome from the login screen if you want, and it will be just the way you left it :). You can also use existing programs under XFCE - for example, Open Office and Firefox will still work in exactly the same way that they always have.

You can always try it using "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", and it won't hurt anything. If you don't like it, and want to remove XFCE from your system, use "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop".

I hope this helps
--Ian

aysiu 07-01-2006 12:50 AM

Actually,
Code:

sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
won't remove Xubuntu.

If you ever think you want to remove it, install it with aptitude, not apt-get or Synaptic.

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude

randell6564 07-01-2006 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aysiu
Xubuntu is much lighter and faster than Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It will, in fact, "release" system resources.

ABSOLUTLELY RIGHT! I did it! (Really I just wanted to say "HI aysiu!")

wolfmaniac 07-01-2006 01:46 AM

i migrated to xubuntu and then back to ubuntu but both the times i did a clean install.

did backed my data.

Reegz 07-01-2006 05:31 AM

Is it safe to upgrade??
 
Hi guys.

I'm currently running ubuntu 5.10 on my pc at work and am keen to install 6. My concern is that I cant afford to lose data or time. Is it relatively safe to pop in the install cd and install over my current set-up and still maintain my system state?

binary_y2k2 07-01-2006 08:57 AM

If you want to move from 5.10 to 6.06 then you dont need to install over your system, you can just upgrade
Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades

alaios 07-01-2006 10:45 AM

thx guys
 
I just want to know if i migrate from ubuntu 5.10 that i have now installed the the new xubuntu do u know if it will speed-up a little my system or i have to do a clean install?

aysiu 07-01-2006 11:20 AM

Xubuntu will almost always be faster than Ubuntu. It has nothing to do with what's installed, only what's being used.

For example, I currently have Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Xubuntu installed on one partition, and when I log into XFCE, it's fast. The fact that Ubuntu and Kubuntu are also installed doesn't affect the speed of XFCE because I'm not using Ubuntu and Kubuntu at the time.

binary_y2k2 07-01-2006 01:01 PM

It should because XFCE consumes less resources than GNOME or KDE

Edit: dont know what i meant before :p

Fireproof4ever 07-02-2006 01:01 PM

Thanks...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IBall
Welcome to LQ!

This will work with no problems. As someone said above, select "xfce-session" from the login screen to get into XFCE.

The major advantage is that you will not lose your documents, or any installed programs. You can still choose Gnome from the login screen if you want, and it will be just the way you left it :). You can also use existing programs under XFCE - for example, Open Office and Firefox will still work in exactly the same way that they always have.

You can always try it using "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", and it won't hurt anything. If you don't like it, and want to remove XFCE from your system, use "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop".

I hope this helps
--Ian

"sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" worked like a charm...thanks for your help. I set XFCE as my default session so now it boots to Xubuntu w/o any extra effort and I can switch back to Gnome (I really don't know why I would though). Xubuntu does seem to run better, I think it is a keeper.

Alan

alaios 07-04-2006 07:05 AM

Hi i have ubuntu 5.10 and i want to migrate to the latest xubuntu. Can u give me instructions how to do that? For example what commands i should execute for that. I dont have any apt sources for the new xubuntu. I have searched to the ubuntu/zubuntu official but i didnt find any useful info about my migration

binary_y2k2 07-04-2006 12:59 PM

The apt sources are the same for all Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu...
All you need to do is make sure your up-to-date, use synaptic or, on the console:
Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudp apt-get upgrade

Then install xubuntu-desktop from synaptic, or from console:
Code:

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
then when you logout, you can choose a Xfce session from the login.

aysiu 07-04-2006 01:22 PM

I'd highly recommend against installing Xubuntu with apt-get. Use aptitude instead.

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude

Reegz 07-14-2006 02:40 PM

Wish me luck. I'm a few seconds away from upgrading my distro to 606...

only a few more taps of the keyboard left...

alaios 07-28-2006 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary_y2k2
The apt sources are the same for all Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu...
All you need to do is make sure your up-to-date, use synaptic or, on the console:
Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudp apt-get upgrade

Then install xubuntu-desktop from synaptic, or from console:
Code:

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
then when you logout, you can choose a Xfce session from the login.

Thx a lot after commiting apt-get upgrade i received the message that it needs 160mb to download.. I wanted to install xubuntu to make my systeam lighter:P

binary_y2k2 07-28-2006 07:15 PM

That's because you have to get the lightweight window manager and other things.
That said, the xubuntu-desktop package depends on a lot of stuff that you may not want/need, like the gimp package.
You can run
Code:

apt-cache show xubuntu-desktop
and look at the "Depends:" section to pick what you want to install.
Even if you have to download a lot, the system will run faster as xfce uses less system resources, and there isn't anything stopping you from removing gnome after that.

Mega Man X 07-29-2006 12:21 AM

Just migrated from Ubuntu to Xubuntu myself and loved it. First, I've simply installed xubuntu-desktop. I had a system failure a few days ago and downloaded the full Xubuntu iso. I've noticed no difference between them (by that, I mean xubuntu-desktop installed on Ubuntu and xubuntu CD).

What I liked with Xubuntu is that it came with way less applications that Ubuntu has that I don't use anyway, like all those games, for example. The system is way more responsive and XFCE is highly configurable. It even came with much more interesting themes that Ubuntu did. I can make my system look like a MacOSX, KDE, Gnome, CDE and even BeOS in no time, without downloading any extra themes.

Just like in Ubuntu, I had to do some changes, like downloading codecs, a decent media player and switching to Sun's Java SDK. The rest went flawless and Ubuntu guide works perfectly for that.

The only thing that Ubuntu did nicely, was to auto-configure the multimedia keys on my keyboard. But that is not a big deal, since there are other ways to do that.

Xubuntu is really a keeper ^_^;;

alaios 07-29-2006 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man X

What I liked with Xubuntu is that it came with way less applications that Ubuntu has that I don't use anyway, like all those games, for example. The system is way more responsive and XFCE is highly configurable.

Thx a lot for answers.. I can see that u have upgraded from your old ubunty. I cant understand why you system is lighter and has less apps.. My system after apt-get update still downloads lot of new apps.. I think it would be much heavier

binary_y2k2 07-29-2006 04:30 PM

It's because you can get the CD ISO from here and it installs only xubuntu and not gnome, when you install xubuntu-desktop you have to download all the default apps rather than them getting installed. Also just because you have a lot of apps it don't mean that you system isn't light, the xfce uses less system resources than gnome or kde so you system will run faster.

DouViction 03-31-2009 12:34 PM

A totally newbie question-i did sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and it've just finished removing tons of 'lib's and some other stuff.
The question is-what exactly did he remove and how it will affect the system functionality? Right before i tried to remove something I won't ever use using synaptic, but removing 'lib's didn't seem a good idea to me.
*ot* im scared... :(

IBall 03-31-2009 05:33 PM

Welcome to LQ DouVicton!.

You would have been better starting your own thread, rather than one that is nearly 3 years old.

As part of Aptitude's process when you add and remove software, it will delete anything else that is not being used. This means that if you remove package A, and package B is only installed as a dependency for package A, then B will be removed. However, if package C also depends on B, or if B was installed on its own, then it will not be removed.

Is your system broken in any way? You will find out soon enough if it is, in which case come back here and we will help you fix it.

I hope this helps,
--Ian


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