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Old 03-31-2011, 10:07 PM   #1
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Lubuntu -- Install Question -- REBOOTS after the TRY or INSTALL menu


IBM 600X Thinkpad, 328 MB RAM

This laptop is currently running Ubuntu 10.04 just fine....if you count running
a bit......slow.

I have heard good things about Lubuntu and that it can speed things up, and that it uses pretty much the same installer as Ubuntu. However, just after I select either TRY or INSTALL (it doesn't matter) the screen goes black and the computer reboots.

A fellow on another forum mentioned he has a IBM 600e with only 128 MB RAM running Lubuntu. The 600e is a lessor form of my 600X, both coming out the same year. So, technically, my 600X should have no problems as they are the same machine, I just have more RAM and a higher Mhz.

Does anyone have any ideas what is going wrong? And how I can solve this problem? I can boot Lubuntu liveCD I burned on a desktop machine just fine so, on the face of things, it looks like the cd is OK.

Thanks!
 
Old 04-01-2011, 04:47 AM   #2
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Please provide a link(s) to the h/w specs for this laptop, specifically including the video chip.

Also, what video resolution choices does the Lubuntu menu offer? Is there a "VESA", "laptop", or "minimal" option? I'm guessing that your Lubuntu CD is sending the video chip a resolution it can't handle. Sorry I can't give a quick solution -- I rarely do *buntu installs or trials, but I do know how to proceed w/ SimplyMEPIS.

Are you willing to try a different LiveCD just to find a solution? Then perhaps the MEPIS based antiX would be worth (at least) a (temporary) shot.
 
Old 04-01-2011, 06:00 AM   #3
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Since you're already running Ubuntu, you should be able to install the LXDE components (Lubuntu is basically Ubuntu using the LXDE components instead of Gnome) and select LXDE as your startup DE when the greeter appears
 
Old 04-01-2011, 06:37 AM   #4
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Lightbulb Oops ...

Quote:
This laptop is currently running Ubuntu ...
-- Oops. :eggonface:

If the pattern for Gnome & KDE holds, there should be an Ubuntu package lubuntu-desktop which will install LXDE & its components. Look for it 1st.
 
Old 04-01-2011, 11:18 AM   #5
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The lxde-desktop (there is such a package, will not give you Lubuntu but will give you the Lxde desktop. Lubuntu, last I knew, ran the chrome browser among many other differences.

Not being a full member of the Ubuntu family yet the only disk available is the live disk. This is too bad or I would suggest the Alt install disk which would probably give you no trouble at all.

What you could do is get an Ubuntu netboot disk and install from that. You would have to get the Lubuntu repo address (I think it is a ppa at this point). But if you could get a DE installed and get that repo you should be able to get Lubuntu, or very close to it, that way.

I would check the Ubuntu repo (through synaptic) and see if it is the lxde-desktop or the lubuntu-desktop. If the latter then the netboot install, the DE install on that and fixing the sources list to match Lubuntu would give you Lubuntu as well as any install disk.

Here is a link to all the official Ubuntu release images that are currently supported. This is a link that anyone using Ubuntu should have. A lot of need options here;
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/

and Lubuntus home;
http://lubuntu.net/
 
Old 04-01-2011, 01:46 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the input!

I have installed lxde as an alternate desktop for Ubuntu and that is faster, but I was hoping to squeeze a bit more speed out of Lubuntu, plus they have already picked the alternate apps which aren't so resource hungry....as playing a video under Ubuntu or the lxde desktop, doesn't work very well, if at all.

Lubuntu advertises they are adding stuff all the time, so I decided to dig through their site deeper and I discovered a Alternate Text Installer they have just added and downloaded and burned that. My 600X is now installing packages. When it finishes and I try to boot, I will let you know what happens!
 
Old 04-01-2011, 03:01 PM   #7
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That is great. I haven't seen the Alt install for Lubuntu. It is good news.

I have been running Linux only for a few years now and have no trouble with videos. I run Debian testing as my main OS but have a couple of installs of Ubuntu which was my main for a long time.

You do have the medibuntu repo I hope. Can't do much with out that.

This is a great site for setting up your Ubuntu installs;
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid

That link is to the 10.04 page but there is a 10.10 and a 11.04 page. They have a pretty good section on setting up for video play back. Some packages may need to be from gnome or kde to get it working as you want.

One thing you may want to try is booting the LiveCD ISO directly from grub. If it works it is pretty cool as it runs nearly as fast as an installed OS.

The ISO must be on your / partition (I have / and /home and it will not boot from /home. The ISO and grub are looking for a / file to boot). I have my ISO file as /etc/aa. This makes it easy to get to and in the same directory as grub.d which I like if I need to check something while setting it up.

I just got the Lubuntu 10.10 ISO and this is the custom menu entry for it that I will be using;
Code:
echo "Adding Lubuntu 10.10 ISO on sda9" >&2 
cat << EOF
menuentry "Lubuntu 10.10 ISO on /dev/sda9" {
loopback loop (hd0,9)/etc/aa/lubuntu-10.10.iso
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/etc/aa/lubuntu-10.10.iso noprompt 
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
EOF
The ISO has to be written to work with grub. Never tried this with a Lubuntu disk but they want and are in line to be part of the Ubuntu family so their ISOs are going to have to be compatible soon if not now.

You will, of coarse, need to edit that to meet your system. The stuff between the " " can be anything you want. Make sure the {}s are in the position that I have them in.

I have mine is /etc/grub.d/09_custom but just putting in 40_custom and running;
Code:
sudo update-grub
should do it.

I would run;
Code:
sudo grub-mkconfig
after that. This will print your new /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to your terminal so you can check to make sure it is right.

Having it in the 40_custom file will put the entry at the bottom of your screen menu.
 
Old 04-01-2011, 10:33 PM   #8
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Yes! My 600x is now lubuntu! It seems to be running fine. And I think it is faster this way.

And widget I will check your suggestions out. Thanks.
 
Old 04-01-2011, 11:38 PM   #9
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If nothing else it is a good way to see if the bugger will boot before burning it to disk. If it does you can install from there too.

I did get the 11.04A3 ISO too. So now what I have is this;
Code:
#!/bin/sh
# This file is an example on how to add custom entries

echo "Adding Xubuntu 11.04B1 ISO on sda9" >&2 
cat << EOF
menuentry "Xubuntu 11.04B1 ISO on /dev/sda9" {
loopback loop (hd0,9)/etc/aa/natty-desktop-amd64.iso
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/etc/aa/natty-desktop-amd64.iso noprompt 
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
EOF

echo "Adding Lubuntu 10.10 ISO on sda9" >&2 
cat << EOF
menuentry "Lubuntu 10.10 ISO on /dev/sda9" {
loopback loop (hd0,9)/etc/aa/lubuntu-10.10.iso
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/etc/aa/lubuntu-10.10.iso noprompt 
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
EOF

echo "Adding Lubuntu 11.04 ISO on sda9" >&2 
cat << EOF
menuentry "Lubuntu 11.04 ISO on /dev/sda9" {
loopback loop (hd0,9)/etc/aa/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/etc/aa/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso noprompt 
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
EOF
They all boot very nicely. The Ubuntu one will not boot at all. By this menu or on a disk all it does is try and then freeze my box solid. Nothing will work including the power button. Have to unplug the thing to get out. That sucks.
 
  


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