LinuxQuestions.org
Review your favorite Linux distribution.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Ubuntu
User Name
Password
Ubuntu This forum is for the discussion of Ubuntu Linux.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 10-09-2014, 05:30 AM   #1
deepclutch
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Kerala, India
Distribution: Debian Bookworm
Posts: 773
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 34
Post Is it possible to install Ubuntu removing "Unity", and install Gnome3?


I prefer Gnome Desktop Environment.


I have downloaded "Ubuntu Trusty Gnome edition"(14.04.1), installed on a Samsung RV-509 Laptop. It is buggy and has random freeze issues as I observe. Compared to the Gnome experience in Fedora, Ubuntu-Gnome edition is very disappointing.



My question: is it a good idea, if I install normal Ubuntu with unity and uninstall unity and related dependencies, add Ubuntu Gnome PPA and install Gnome. How is this idea? I consider this, because default version of Ubuntu(with unity) is what Ubuntu Developers and community cares and I hope is more tuned for end user satisfaction. If I install Gnome3 later(unlike "Ubuntu Gnome edition"), I hope Ubuntu *will* be more stable.



anyone using Trusty with Gnome?
 
Old 10-09-2014, 09:31 AM   #2
snowday
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667

Rep: Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411
If your thesis is correct that the "default version of Ubuntu(with unity) is what Ubuntu Developers and community cares and I hope is more tuned for end user satisfaction," then by removing it, you won't be receiving that benefit.

PPA's are unofficial software sources and receive no official support from Canonical developers. I would think that if stability and reliability are your end goals, you would want to avoid PPAs generally speaking....

The obvious question is: Why not use Fedora?
 
Old 10-09-2014, 10:26 AM   #3
deepclutch
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Kerala, India
Distribution: Debian Bookworm
Posts: 773

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
If your thesis is correct that the "default version of Ubuntu(with unity) is what Ubuntu Developers and community cares and I hope is more tuned for end user satisfaction," then by removing it, you won't be receiving that benefit.

PPA's are unofficial software sources and receive no official support from Canonical developers. I would think that if stability and reliability are your end goals, you would want to avoid PPAs generally speaking....

The obvious question is: Why not use Fedora?
It's not like everything they(Cannonical) offers fits personal preferences. my problem is I am not comfortable with unity, but likes Gnome shell. However, the rough edges are much pronounced in case of Ubuntu's Gnome edition. in that case, I believe unofficial/semi-official PPA's like Gnome3 will fit better. The problem however is, what I understand is Unity is integrated much into the default release. I likes to try with a bare basic cd like Debian netinstall through which we can install basic system that suits advanced users(nitpicking applications, that we need). I knew about "Ubuntu-core" but wonder whether it supports networking to download and configure a Desktop system.
Yes, I am using Fedora 17 on a failing hdd currently. it is OK. but, I am more into Debian system(package management included). the problem is Debian has it's rough edges, it needs tweaking like for e.g. font anti-aliasing or some other packages which are missing but finds in Ubuntu or RedHat. I hope it is clear now.

Last edited by deepclutch; 10-09-2014 at 10:29 AM.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 04:22 PM   #4
snowday
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667

Rep: Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411Reputation: 1411
Here is an excellent tutorial (I have personally used it) to build a minimal Ubuntu:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal

The example uses the 'icewm' interface, but you could easily substitute a different desktop environment (such as Gnome, from either the Ubuntu repos or the PPA) as you wish.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 08:37 PM   #5
widget
Senior Member
 
Registered: Oct 2008
Location: S.E. Montana
Distribution: Debian Testing, Stable, Sid and Manjaro, Mageia 3, LMDE
Posts: 2,628

Rep: Reputation: 497Reputation: 497Reputation: 497Reputation: 497Reputation: 497
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
Here is an excellent tutorial (I have personally used it) to build a minimal Ubuntu:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal

The example uses the 'icewm' interface, but you could easily substitute a different desktop environment (such as Gnome, from either the Ubuntu repos or the PPA) as you wish.
This is the smart way to do what you want to do.

The site given above is very good by the way. I took a look at the tute and you aren't likely to go wrong using it. She does a very good job.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 08:48 PM   #6
k3lt01
Senior Member
 
Registered: Feb 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: Debian Wheezy, Jessie, Sid/Experimental, playing with LFS.
Posts: 2,900

Rep: Reputation: 637Reputation: 637Reputation: 637Reputation: 637Reputation: 637Reputation: 637
Quote:
Originally Posted by deepclutch View Post
Yes, I am using Fedora 17 on a failing hdd currently. it is OK. but, I am more into Debian system(package management included). the problem is Debian has it's rough edges, it needs tweaking like for e.g. font anti-aliasing or some other packages which are missing but finds in Ubuntu or RedHat. I hope it is clear now.
You would prefer to download Ubuntu, uninstall Unity, download and install Gnome, then tweak Gnome to get it to suit your preferences than download and install Debian and do some tweaking of Debian to get it to suit your preferences.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 10-14-2014, 07:49 AM   #7
groze
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 34

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Here is what I did. I download the LUbuntu live cd with LXDE and installed the xfce desktop. Then I add Ubuntu software center and keep Lubuntu software center. Each has a little different software. In my case I have two desktops LXDE and Xfce. I use xfce mostly. Instead of xfce you could install Gnome using the apt-get

PHP Code:
sudo apt-get install gnome 


Side comment, I know LUbuntu is based on the xfce deskstop. I actually like the Xfce desktop with the rat/mouse (if that what it is).

Last edited by groze; 10-20-2014 at 09:06 AM. Reason: Adding some info.
 
  


Reply

Tags
gnome, trusty, ubuntu 14.04.1, unity



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[SOLVED] How can one install Ubuntu 12.04 in spite of "internal error" during first install? JZL240I-U Linux - Software 5 08-01-2012 01:43 AM
Mouse pointer distorted on Ubuntu 11.04 "Unity 2d" with Geforce 4200 Nabeel Ubuntu 7 07-07-2011 03:16 AM
LXer: "2 Dided Dock" Now Just A Mockup Anymore Ubuntu 11.04 - Unity LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 03-16-2011 06:00 AM
"urgent" Can't Install Glusterfs "ubuntu 8." sjahed Linux - Newbie 1 07-02-2008 02:13 PM
how do I "apt-get install" without removing dependencies? suse2166 Linux - Software 4 12-26-2004 07:41 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Ubuntu

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:26 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration