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Old 05-02-2008, 06:35 PM   #16
DragonSlayer48DX
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I'd have gone in for a fresh install too, but then, it's too much of a hassle. Not the install itself, which would be faster than an upgrade, but the later part - when I need to install software which doesn't come packaged with Ubuntu. Keeping a copy of the APT cache and installing from it isn't my idea of a 'good idea', because since the last time I installed it newer versions would have been released. So hunting down all the other different software and installing them is a big headache.
If you're referring to packages found in the Ubuntu repositories, hunting them down is no hassle at all. Simply launch "Add/Remove...", enable all repos, then type the name of the package(s) in the "Search" box. It will find them for you.

Cheers
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:06 AM   #17
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DSL worked, then stopped on two boxes upped to hardy

A third box still on gutsy is my only path to the 'net. I was trying to restore printing thru a JetDirect when the two stopped communicating with the modem (regular and spare)--won't ping or display the VersaLink setup page. This is wired--wireless is a different can of worms.

I did a fresd install on the laptop and a version upgrade on the desktop becapse I have stored e-mail in T-bird and have never been successful transferring them. Backed up the files but couldn't get them to show up in the new install after copying the files in.

Had to repeat the fresh install as I am trying to share the hd with the hated XP. First couldn't get either to run, then couldn't get XP to reinstall. If I can get TurboTax to run with Crossover next year I won't need Windows at all anymore.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 03:17 AM   #18
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Thumbs down beware of your wifi connection

make attention if you own a chip broadcom for wifi connection to internet:

upgrading to hardy your net connection will lose and for now it seems to be nothing to do to reactivate it (there is a open question on the official ubuntu forum on it)

byez
 
Old 05-03-2008, 08:58 AM   #19
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A third box still on gutsy is my only path to the 'net. I was trying to restore printing thru a JetDirect when the two stopped communicating with the modem (regular and spare)--won't ping or display the VersaLink setup page. This is wired--wireless is a different can of worms.

I did a fresd install on the laptop and a version upgrade on the desktop becapse I have stored e-mail in T-bird and have never been successful transferring them. Backed up the files but couldn't get them to show up in the new install after copying the files in.

Had to repeat the fresh install as I am trying to share the hd with the hated XP. First couldn't get either to run, then couldn't get XP to reinstall. If I can get TurboTax to run with Crossover next year I won't need Windows at all anymore.
Sweet. I wish more of these guys would get on board and support linux.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 09:19 AM   #20
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Lightbulb upgrading to 8.04

Hi,
I also had pb upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. First try, every files had been loaded (2 hrs or so) and install crashed
I tested fresh install with no pb on a laptop(Toshiba L30) and desktop computer(Athlon 1800). I tried again an upgrade. In a console I typed "sudo apt-get install -f" which verified some of the files or libraries in the system and then did the upgrade itself : worked fine.
The upgraded sytem has nice french menus. Firefox 3b5 has not every add-on I had with 2.0.0.14 but works fine.
As you can see, tredegar, fresh install is not always a better solution
 
Old 05-03-2008, 09:53 AM   #21
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service packs vs upgrades

I quit windows because of all the service packs, continued security upgrades. deliberate compatibility issues with competitive 3rd party software. these issue always seemed to happen when MS decided to take over another application. The first computer I maintained was a ROLM 16 with 128k of magnetic core memory.

Mainly I am just tired of fresh starts.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 10:37 AM   #22
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Two machines, other upgraded trough apt-get, other using the "traditional" method of installation cd-rom, formatting root partition and so on. Both succeeded, both took more or less the same time, both worked. Well, the apt-get upgraded one had some minor configuration problems due to some old config files left over..nothing bad, though. Probably due to me not installing much packages that aren't in the official reposities.

Funny to hear somebody "quit Windows" (whatever it means) because of continued security updates. I would think somebody stops using an operating system if there were no security updates

Before you upgrade:
- verify that you have fresh backups taken and that they work and that you know how to put them back, if needed
- consider which way of upgrading is the best for your situation: internet, cd, local network or something else
- think what changes you've maded to your currently running system after it's fresh setup, that you need to re-do, and if needed (and possible), save them somehow (for example copy configuration files or scripts you've modified/created)
- consider if you really need the update: if your system is running fine and if it's still supported (or if you need that), is it worth it to take chances with the update right now, or is it better to wait some more? Of course if it's just "for fun", go ahead and don't blame anybody then.
- make sure your hardware is known to work with the new system, or at least where you can get help if it doesn't
- before jumping off the edge, from a working system to something you don't know, browse the web and see what other people have encountered, especially those who have similar hardware to yours

After these it shouldn't be that big of a problem. But of course there can be surprises A disc that works on one hardware could prove not to work on another, and if one version works, another might not. If it's important to you, consider if you want to take the risk.

Having said that, there are rarely situations where the faced problems can't be fixed. In Ubuntu's case it's good to have the Alternate Installation Disc ready in case problems arise; it could work better than the desktop disc, especially if there are X (or gfx hardware) related problems. Once the system is installed, anything broken can then be fixed.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:07 PM   #23
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Hmm, after running the upgrade (just for 8.04 no the complete OS upgrade) yesterday it would seem that the Adept problem has been fixed. I checked today and it allowed me to update about 12 packages without having to go through the hassle of logging in as root. Those guys at Ubuntu are on the ball now
 
Old 05-05-2008, 03:07 AM   #24
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I haven't personally filed a bug report simply because I can't find where to do so????? I have filed them in the past but now the procedure 'appears' to have changed.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
 
Old 05-05-2008, 03:11 AM   #25
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If you're referring to packages found in the Ubuntu repositories, hunting them down is no hassle at all. Simply launch "Add/Remove...", enable all repos, then type the name of the package(s) in the "Search" box. It will find them for you.

Cheers
That's exactly my point. I'll have to search for and install all of them in a clean install. Frankly, it's too much of a headache to do so - especially when you've added quite a few apps.
 
Old 05-05-2008, 05:26 AM   #26
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I'll have to search for and install all of them in a clean install. Frankly, it's too much of a headache to do so
Have you seen this thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...9/#post2905074 ?
 
Old 05-05-2008, 09:10 AM   #27
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I noticed the Upgrade to 8.04 Hardy in the update window the past couple of updates and ignored it. I should have at least looked at the Ubuntu web site to see if there were any known problems and/or decided whether to download an ISO for burning or upgrade from the Internet. I blindly choose to upgrade via Internet without backing up. I am lucky that I didn't lose any data and I did have a problem after restarting post download and install.

A program called BusyBox came up in CLI (initramfs). I wasn't able to see anything other than / directory. I went to the Ubuntu forum after panicking for several minutes to determine if my upgrade was isolated or others had similar problems. I discovered others had had problems. I read through the forum looking for a solution. I didn't find a clear solution but I did follow suggestions of a couple Ubuntu forum members:

On start up of computer, press Esc key after GRUB has loaded for options.
Tried to restore earliest kernel.
When that didn't work, I was presented with CLI. Entered "cat /proc/cmdline" to see the value, then
"ls /dev/disk/by-uuid" to see what possible values were present. I saw what I presumed to be the old uuid. Performed ls and saw initrd.img and initrd.img.old, and vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old. Copied initrd.img.old to initrd.img and vmlinuz.old to vmlinuz, then restarted PC. Booted to gui login and noticed all my files on the 8.04 default background. Relieved. Checked all files and found they were, luckily, intact. I will read the Ubuntu site regarding upgrades next time, 3 yrs, before performing an upgrade as well as performing a backup. I am feeling very lazy for not backing up prior to the upgrade.
 
Old 05-06-2008, 04:35 AM   #28
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Cheers mate It does look as though it has been fixed.. I'm going to try updating my Xubuntu 7.10 box today to 8.04 Fingers crossed that will work ok. There's not really anyting that I need to back up as it's a 'learning' PC for me to get to grips with Xfce. Interesting desktop... in a nice way
 
  


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