"Great, just we need, another flaming distro wars thread." So, I apologize for that in advance.

That said, I need to vent, and an internet forum seems like a reasonable place for that.

I've been using Ubuntu as my primary Desktop operating system for the last ~4-5 years. (Previously, Fedora.) Throughout that course I've also moonlighted with Debian, and have ran it on my more serious systems for the better part of a decade.

Airing of grievances:

- Ubuntuforums and related community portals do not generally bespeak a sophisticated software engineering knowledge-base.

- Reporting bugs on Launchpad is generally a waste of your time, and will be met with sass from some Canonical sap.

- KISS mentality is broken; every sixth months you have a total WTF moment when you install the new release and realize some central expectation you had held has been lifted from under you.

- Seemingly every day, there's a slew of package updates. These should be rolled up into more meaningful and well planned point releases.

- Bloatware. There are a ton of crazy projects Ubuntu is taking on to address problems that don't exist on the desktop. Sure, some of these play to a mobile/tablet metaphor, but if that's the goal, they should be in an entirely different release, Blobuntu, or something.

- Documentation. The documentation is largely a collection of out-of-date BKMs thrown together, not a well-planned and well-executed objective description of the software usage, corpus.

- Philosophy. Ubuntu is a business that relies on OEM deals.

So anyway, I'm going to convert my remaining systems (that aren't already running it) to Debian.

Ubuntu has a lot going for it - works well usually with very little configuration, widely discussed on the internet, and well known among professional software engineers and even the general public. But at a certain point, those benefits outweigh the cons.

Sounds like Debian is more suited to your needs. See you over on the Debian forum.

Cheers,

Evo2.