LXer: Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality

LXer · 03-21-2015, 10:01 AM

Published at LXer:

Recall a barrage of complaints in the run up to Windows 8's launch that concerned the ability to install other operating systems—whether they be older versions of Windows, or alternatives such as Linux or FreeBSD—on hardware that sported a "Designed for Windows 8" logo.

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metaschima · 03-21-2015, 11:03 AM

I figured this was coming, this was their plan all along. So, M$ you can take those free Windoze 10 upgrades and shove em.

273 · 03-21-2015, 11:13 AM

Note that M$ don't require "secure boot" to be the only option and that Windows 10 still runs without "secure boot" enabled. Don't get me wrong, this is a bad move on M$'s part and could cause problems in future. However, once Windows 10 has the keylogging removed from the license I'll be upgrading my Windows 8 machines straight away as it's far less annoying than Windows 8 to use so if I must use Windows I'll use a less annoying version at least.

John VV · 03-21-2015, 02:10 PM

the "bate and switch" was EXPECTED

i do not "own" a copy of win7
and i do not plan on "owning" a 8 or 10 install

And i was hopping that

"We are the Microsoft , resistance is futile , you will be assimilated...." would come to an end

273 · 03-21-2015, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV

the "bate and switch" was EXPECTED

i do not "own" a copy of win7
and i do not plan on "owning" a 8 or 10 install

And i was hopping that

"We are the Microsoft , resistance is futile , you will be assimilated...." would come to an end

To quote myself form another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 273

Sadly this isn't an easy option in most countries and means buying very specific laptops from certain brands only with very little choice.
Personally, since I had to buy Windows 8* and the laptop I bought has a 1TB hard drive, I went for dual boot at the moment so that any warranty claim will be easier and for the odd program I want to use which requires Windows -- at the moment that is only Amazon Video but should I apply for any new jobs soon I will likely need Windows at some point in the application process (I know I did for my current position).

*Technically, in a lot of cases, OEM discount from Microsoft, the inclusion of third-party programs and having no need to support any other OS actually makes Windows virtually free for OEMs, hence its ubiquity. This also explains the much broader choice of less expensive Windows machines.

GazL · 03-21-2015, 04:04 PM

Step 1. Require Secureboot, including "option for users to turn it off".
Step 2. Make 'option to turn it off' optional.
Step 3. Offer hardware vendor bulk discounts on Windows license if they choose the option of removing the option to disable secureboot.
Step 4. Profit.

... but, no need for alarm... because, it's only an option!

metaschima · 03-21-2015, 04:58 PM

Supposedly the keylogger is only part of the technical preview, it will be removed when the final version comes out.